Streets of Shanghai (1927)

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Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostSun Aug 05, 2012 10:11 pm

Streets of Shanghai (1927) is listed as a lost film on silentera.com. Does anybody have access to the AMIA database and can confirm that it is a lost film? I've been contacted by someone who has found a 35mm nitrate print of the first reel.
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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostMon Aug 06, 2012 12:32 pm

The FIAF database does not contain a listing for this title.

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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostTue Aug 07, 2012 8:32 am

It would be a nice find considering the cast includes Anna May Wong and Jason Robards.
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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostThu Aug 09, 2012 12:55 am

I uncovered the first reel of the 1927 film "Streets of Shanghai", 10" Agfa & Dupoint Pathe 35mm spliced together. Believe it is a lost film. I am trying to determine a value.
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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostThu Aug 09, 2012 11:47 am

It is extremely difficult to determine a value of a nitrate film. There are a few private collectors who do buy nitrate films. Archives are typically under-funded and while they can pay something for a film, it is not very much. One thing that you could certainly ask for is a DVD copy of the film, after it has been transferred.

Having the only copy of a nitrate film is not the same as having the only copy of a comic book or baseball card. While there are people that are interested in seeing the film, there are not very many people or institutions interested in actually possessing it. It is more of a cultural artifact rather than something you can display in your living room. The reel does have value to those researching film history, or possibly making documentaries on film history.

Most silent films have little commercial value anyway, but a single reel of a multi-reel feature has no commercial value at all.

For an example of someone who tried to make money off of the only existing copy of a nitrate film, Edison's Frankenstein (1910), google "Al Dettlaff". He was unable to get any archive to meet his price for the film, so he attempted to release it on DVD himself. Interestingly, he also had an early copy of Robin Hood, which he did give to the Fort Lee Film Commission and it has been preserved.
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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostThu Aug 09, 2012 3:26 pm

Seems like one thing a person could do if they found a lost film is to make
sure an archive got the reel itself but also create a digital copy so they
could market the DVD themselves. This is provided the copyright is clear.
It's very easy to duplicate DVD's and offer them for sale on eBay, Amazon, and the like.
Perhaps the archive could promise a digital transfer in receipt of the Nitrate
reel.
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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostThu Aug 09, 2012 6:49 pm

That's only provided the copyright has lapsed, of course. Even if yours is the only print, the copyright would still lie with the copyright holder. However, looking at the production company behind the film, the vast likelihood is that the work is public domain anyway
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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostThu Aug 09, 2012 8:31 pm

Only review I see of it:

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review? ... 946995D6CF

It would be GREAT to have some people sign a pledge to fill in all the silent plots they can
on these online databases. Is the way the copyrights work that NY Times reviews can't
just be posted to Wikipedia or IMDB? I'm realizing the answer is probably "no, they can't,"
but sometimes copyright laws can be strangely fortuitous.
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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostThu Aug 09, 2012 8:53 pm

silentmovies742 wrote:That's only provided the copyright has lapsed, of course. Even if yours is the only print, the copyright would still lie with the copyright holder. However, looking at the production company behind the film, the vast likelihood is that the work is public domain anyway


Agreed. I can't find a renewal for it.
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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostFri Aug 10, 2012 11:14 am

Janiss Garza and Hal Erickson of AllMovie.com have written many synopses of lost films on that site.

http://www.allmovie.com/movie/streets-of-shanghai-v112063
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Re: Streets of Shanghai (1927)

PostMon Aug 20, 2012 7:13 pm

Two bids already. No problem selling this.
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