KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostSat Nov 25, 2017 5:46 am

bigshot wrote:I think the reason Eureka did it different is because some people balk at I instead of P after the 1080. Kino does that too, to the consternation of the people who hate judder. Shepard claimed that the original cue sheets called for 67 minutes and 26 fps. The Spanish release is definitely faster than the old Kino. The back cover time may be a typo, or perhaps it includes some sort of restoration titles that have been tacked on. However the film speed is different and I really like it, because combined with the fantastic 4K transfer, it gives the film a live presence that is rare in silent films. Kind of like Todd AO in 30 frames, just not quite that pronounced. If you're going to own more than one copy of this, I'd suggest the Spanish one for the film and the Eureka one for the extras. (I have the Kino one, but I am giving it away for a Christmas present this year.)


When my Eureka set arrives I'll make a point of watching The General first and leave my impressions based on comparisons with an earlier KINO edition. Unfortunately, I don't own the Spanish release or I'd do an A/B comparison of that edition as well. I've done some research on judder to better understand it's overall impact on the viewing experience. Much of the criticism of progressive scans susceptibility to judder is overblown and, when present, mileage varies (case by case).

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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostSat Nov 25, 2017 6:35 pm

Judder won't be much of an issue if the film is 24 fps. It's more of a problem with 18 fps. If they did The General at 26 fps without interlacing, there would probably be judder.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostMon Nov 27, 2017 10:00 am

I got the set the other day -- did a cursory check of some favorite moments in GENERAL and SHERLOCK, and was most impressed. The picture is crystal clear and feels properly balanced -- there's none of the bleached out look that has cursed some other releases. I didn't notice any judder.

And last night's full-out watch of THE GENERAL was most enjoyable. It just looks great, and Carl Davis' score is one of the best I know of. This will be my go-to home video version of the film.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostMon Nov 27, 2017 2:00 pm

Roscoe wrote:I got the set the other day -- did a cursory check of some favorite moments in GENERAL and SHERLOCK, and was most impressed. The picture is crystal clear and feels properly balanced -- there's none of the bleached out look that has cursed some other releases. I didn't notice any judder.

And last night's full-out watch of THE GENERAL was most enjoyable. It just looks great, and Carl Davis' score is one of the best I know of. This will be my go-to home video version of the film.


Excellent report, Roscoe! :D

My set arrived an hour ago. (woo-hoo!)

Note: Reviews of Eureka's MoC Keaton set are starting to pop-up on the web. For those on the fence, if there are still sets available, I wouldn't procrastinate. At 3000 copies, this ltd. ed. set will be OOP before the end of the year and selling at a premium through eBay marketers.

bigshot wrote:Judder won't be much of an issue if the film is 24 fps. It's more of a problem with 18 fps. If they did The General at 26 fps without interlacing, there would probably be judder.


Follow-up: The MoC presentation states the same running time as the Spanish language version (67 min.). Judder not being a factor, the only mystery remaining is how an interlaced film scanned at 26 fps can have the exact same running time as as a progressive scanned film locked into 24 fps. Hopefully, someone will be able to unravel this curious conundrum.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostTue Jan 02, 2018 8:39 am

I can't find the USA blue ray anywhere online...
Already sold out?

Help please.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostTue Jan 02, 2018 10:40 am

The Kino blu-rays are at Amazon.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostThu Jan 18, 2018 4:11 pm

Is Cohen or someone planning on releasing these in the States? I'm assuming these are different (and superior to) the Lobster restorations Kino released last year? (Though it was nice to get the Gaylord Carter score for SBJ on blu!)7
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