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Griffith features not to dvd

PostSat Jun 16, 2012 10:52 am

I think almost every surviving feature of D.W. Griffith has seen some sort of dvd release if not a home video in recent years. What is the tie-up with ONE EXCITING NIGHT and THE WHITE ROSE?
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSat Jun 16, 2012 11:33 am

I have seen dvd-r offered for ONE EXCITING NIGHT and WHITE ROSE available from a UK source, no doubt bootlegs. I think MOMA has a print of WHITE ROSE but I recall reading a MOMA commentary that the beautiful photography is washed out in known copies. Personally, I'd like to see the US release print of AMERICA, which one exhibitor at the time called "a real thrill picture." The version in circulation is the UK release and while it has its moments, "thrilling" is not the word that comes to mind.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSat Jun 16, 2012 11:55 am

So, where do I get DVDs of HEARTS OF THE WORLD, IDOL DANCER and others?
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSat Jun 16, 2012 12:18 pm

rollot24 wrote:So, where do I get DVDs of HEARTS OF THE WORLD, IDOL DANCER and others?


Well, Grapevine Video sells THE IDOL DANCER. I recorded HEARTS OF THE WORLD off TCM some time ago. It apparently did have a VHS release back in the day.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSat Jun 16, 2012 12:38 pm

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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSun Jun 17, 2012 8:55 pm

Does ONE EXCITING NIGHT still exist? I thought it had met the same fate as THAT ROYLE GIRL.

In any event, it's really hard for me to imagine any night with Carol Dempster being exciting.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSun Jun 17, 2012 10:41 pm

George O'Brien wrote:Does ONE EXCITING NIGHT still exist? I thought it had met the same fate as THAT ROYLE GIRL.

In any event, it's really hard for me to imagine any night with Carol Dempster being exciting.


I think it was D.W. Griffith's One Exciting Night he had with Carol Dempster that led to all the problems!
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostMon Jun 18, 2012 7:12 am

Actually, Hearts of the World is available on DVD. A French company called Bach Films released it a few years ago. Alas, Bach Films is the French Alpha-Video. Beware!
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostMon Jun 18, 2012 7:19 am

George O'Brien wrote:Does ONE EXCITING NIGHT still exist? I thought it had met the same fate as THAT ROYLE GIRL.

In any event, it's really hard for me to imagine any night with Carol Dempster being exciting.


One Exciting Night definitely exists, although I don't know how complete the surviving prints may be, and I don't recall ever seeing it available on VHS or DVD. According to the FIAF database, prints can be found at the Cinémathèque Royale (Bruxelles), and the National Film and Sound Archive, Australia (Canberra).
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostMon Jun 18, 2012 8:23 am

Unless something happened to their print (It,s been known to have occurred before) New York,s
MOMA used to have a copy of One Exciting Night, which they would occasionaslly trot out for public
showings.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostMon Jun 18, 2012 9:24 am

I should also add that I recall (haven,t checked their back list) that One Exciting Night has aired
one or two maybe not so exciting nights on TCM?
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostMon Jun 18, 2012 11:22 am

David Shepard has material on One Exciting Night, as he sold 16mm prints of it through Film Preservation Associates.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostMon Jun 18, 2012 1:47 pm

I have the rights to DRUMS OF LOVE and LADY OF THE PAVEMENTS through the Pickford estate and I really need to get them out. I've been waiting (not very actively) for a restoration of the latter with the Vitaphone tracks.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostMon Jun 18, 2012 4:39 pm

AMERICA was released on DVD some years back. I think it was by Image.
I have the DVD, & it was a commercial release. It was a sole DVD, & not included in any Griffith box set.

I have had TCM since 2000, & they have not shown ONE EXCITING NIGHT in that 12 yera period.




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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostMon Jun 18, 2012 4:54 pm

Agnes wrote:AMERICA was released on DVD some years back. I think it was by Image.
I have the DVD, & it was a commercial release. It was a sole DVD, & not included in any Griffith box set.


A few posts back I was referring to the lost US version of AMERICA that, based on contemporary reviews, was much more exciting than the UK release, which is what Image put out.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostMon Jun 18, 2012 8:20 pm

Wm. Charles Morrow wrote:
George O'Brien wrote:Does ONE EXCITING NIGHT still exist? I thought it had met the same fate as THAT ROYLE GIRL.

In any event, it's really hard for me to imagine any night with Carol Dempster being exciting.


One Exciting Night definitely exists, although I don't know how complete the surviving prints may be, and I don't recall ever seeing it available on VHS or DVD. According to the FIAF database, prints can be found at the Cinémathèque Royale (Bruxelles), and the National Film and Sound Archive, Australia (Canberra).


The copy of One Exciting Night that gets passed around collectors is 143 minutes, and so one can only hope that's a complete print, or else it was a very long film indeed. It is marked as a "Paul Killiam" presentation, so whether it was ever released in some way I don't know. It appears to be a reasonably print. My understanding is that the copy of The White Rose floating around is in a very washed out state, but I haven't seen that.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostTue Jun 19, 2012 1:34 am

HEARTS OF THE WORLD was on Laserdisc from the Killiam Collection (I recall getting a clearance copy for under $10 back in the 90s) so various bootleg DVDs may have used that as their master. The sleeve notes say the film was 123 minutes but time-compressed to fit on the laserdisc, and I'm not sure if that meant the 123-min. time was the original running time or the laserdisc's time-compressed running time. One of the best Griffith features not easily available, it would be a great film to see show up with a restored hi-def scan on Blu-ray, including that good William Perry piano score.

ONE EXCITING NIGHT was shown at one of the film conventions sometime in the past 20 years, and though I don't remember much about it, I recall it having a few interesting moments but overall being anything but exciting and one of Griffith's worst features outside of SCARLET DAYS.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostWed Jun 20, 2012 5:49 pm

ONE EXCITING NIGHT had a brief VHS release, I assume in the 1990s from the Critic's Choice company(for some reason Im thinking the late Gene Shalit)

VHS tape
http://www.amazon.com/One-Exciting-Nigh ... ting+night
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostWed Jun 20, 2012 5:54 pm

sepiatone wrote:ONE EXCITING NIGHT had a brief VHS release, I assume in the 1990s from the Critic's Choice company(for some reason Im thinking the late Gene Shalit)

VHS tape
http://www.amazon.com/One-Exciting-Nigh ... ting+night" target="_blank


correction, Gene is very much alive. :mrgreen:
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSat Jun 23, 2012 3:43 pm

milefilms wrote:I have the rights to DRUMS OF LOVE and LADY OF THE PAVEMENTS through the Pickford estate and I really need to get them out. I've been waiting (not very actively) for a restoration of the latter with the Vitaphone tracks.


Dennis,

:) LADY OF THE PAVEMENTS is a wonderful film and I would definitely buy a restored version. DRUMS OF LOVE I don't recall much about. And THE SORROWS OF SATAN is probably tied up by Paramount?

:o So no one has mentioned ISN'T LIFE WONDERFUL? (1924) at all? This was released on laser-disc back in the 90's with a Robert Israel score.
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSun Jun 24, 2012 9:04 pm

The National Gallery of Art played a mostly restored version of LADY OF THE PAVEMENTS four or five years ago. It may have been in reference to Lupe Velez's 100th birthday or just coincidental. For me it offered the rare opportunity to see Jetta Goudal in one of her silents, though she's a villainess. IMHO the film was another typical Ruritanian romance of which Hollywood was always making at the time. Velez purportedly sings "Where Is the Song of Songs" in the film which is lost, the Gallery supplanted a live singer. I had this song from Tin Pan Alley Records almost 30 years ago. It can be heard at Youtube.

(*In my reference to Gene Shalit, I was thinking the late Joel Siegel. Both however of Good Morning America fame. :wink: )
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSun Jun 24, 2012 9:15 pm

lobby card of a scene in ONE EXCITING NIGHT sort of reminiscient of THE CAT AND THE CANARY made five years later.
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/d ... 2-original
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Re: Griffith features not to dvd

PostSun Jul 08, 2012 4:30 pm

Dennis, I now have Vitaphone disks for LADY OF THE PAVEMENTS reels 4, 5, 8 and 10. I understand that disks for reels 4, 5 and 10 were previously missing. Let me know if I can help.

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