Clara Bow Colorizations

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Clara Bow Colorizations

PostTue Aug 03, 2010 10:28 pm

Did a vid on some of my colorized Clara Bow pix on Youtube awhile back, thought I'd link it here. Hope you enjoy:

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PostTue Aug 03, 2010 10:38 pm

As someone who has dabbled a bit in colorization (that is to say, for the last 15 years or so), I bow to your good eye for color.
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PostTue Aug 03, 2010 10:51 pm

batterymaker,

:) Fabulous work. Some of the stills, maybe 7 or 8, I have never seen before in Black and White. Where did you find them? However, I have probably colorized more photos of Clara Bow than anyone. At least 3 or 4 of these photos look almost exactly like my own stuff. I'm not saying that they are, but they look extremely similar. Why the 1960's Disco-Tech music??? :? I like that too, but wouldn't use it personally with Clara Bow.
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PostTue Aug 03, 2010 11:00 pm

Easy--I used different music because I wanted the video to stand out from any of the other tribute videos.

I only use stuff I did--I didn't snag off anyone else's work. Last thing I want to do is step on anyone's toes.


May not match, but it's different.
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PostTue Aug 03, 2010 11:01 pm

Nice choice. The KPM library had the best cues.
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PostWed Aug 04, 2010 9:20 pm

As someone who has dabbled a bit in colorization (that is to say, for the last 15 years or so), I bow to your good eye for color.
Thanks.... :lol:
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PostThu Aug 05, 2010 6:02 pm

Very nice batterymaker :) . Here's a video I did along the same lines with colorized pics. It has various actors and Clara Bow is first.


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PostThu Aug 05, 2010 6:44 pm

I guess I have a question: why do you want to colorize stills if you're a fan of silent film, which is 95% black ad white?
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PostThu Aug 05, 2010 7:26 pm

For me it's just a fun hobby and it's neat to get see people in some type of color who were normally only seen in black and white like Clara Bow.
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PostThu Aug 05, 2010 9:36 pm

I enjoy these looking at people's colorizations. Definitely want to try one out...

UPDATE: You guys inspired me...my first attempt...hehe... Unfort. I don't have any Clara Bow 8x11 photos in my collection.

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PostThu Aug 05, 2010 9:57 pm



You can post YouTube videos directly in your message now...
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PostFri Aug 06, 2010 6:44 am

Not to be negative, but these Bow photos are more sepia-toned than truly coloured.

The two samples kndy posted are truly coloured.

Does the term "colourization" mean not true colours, while true colours would be called "colouring" (or "Ted Turnerizing") ? I'm asking seriously, not sarcastically, because I don't know and want to learn.

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PostFri Aug 06, 2010 7:26 am

silentfilm wrote:You can post YouTube videos directly in your message now...


Stupid question Bruce, how? Use the embed code from youtube? Enlighten me please.
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PostFri Aug 06, 2010 10:18 am

In your message, insert
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[i]<videolink>[/i][/youtube]

where <videolink> contains the YouTube video linkname.
Make sure that "Disable BBCode" is not checked at the bottom of the screen.
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Reason: Updated with new YouTube insertion instructions for the updated message board.
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PostFri Aug 06, 2010 10:50 am

silentfilm wrote:On the YouTube video page, click "Embed". It will give you some options that you can select such as border there or not. Copy the "embed" HTML code directly into your Nitrateville message.

Make sure that "Disable HTML in this post" is not checked at the bottom of the screen. Some other video sites beside YouTube include a few extra HTML tags that you may have to delete. You will see them during the "preview" of your message.


Cool Bruce! Thanks! As you can see, it worked!

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/z5vgMWGe444&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/z5vgMWGe444&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
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PostSat Aug 07, 2010 2:47 am

:) This is my first attempt ever at making up a slide-show. Really just a rough draft at best. Featured are many of my colorized photos of Clara from the past couple years. I probably have close to 50 or 60 others which I did not use in this presentation. Still learning how to add openings, and titles. Hopefully, I will be able to figure that business out later on. I had a nice opening with curtains and a movie screen.Unfortunately, it through my music selections of kilter. So I had to delete that portion of the video.

<embed wmode="opaque" src="http://static.ning.com/socialnetworkmain/widgets/video/flvplayer/flvplayer.swf?v=201008041542" FlashVars="config=http%3A%2F%2Fvintagelifenetwork.ning.com%2Fvideo%2Fvideo%2FshowPlayerConfig%3Fid%3D2282872%253AVideo%253A205009%26ck%3D-&amp;video_smoothing=on&amp;autoplay=off&amp;hideShareLink=1&amp;isEmbedCode=1" width="456" height="344" bgColor="#DFE7EA" scale="noscale" allowScriptAccess="always" allowFullScreen="true" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"> </embed>
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PostSat Aug 07, 2010 10:31 am

I defer to you.

You're a better color artist than I am.

I'll stick to my batteries... :D
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PostSat Aug 07, 2010 10:45 am

batterymaker,

:o Thanks. But your work is excellent. Plus you have a number of stills that I don't have. Where can I find those stills? The two programs I use are way out of date. Both are from probably 2005.
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PostSat Aug 07, 2010 11:37 am

Most of those stills were snagged off of eBay auctions, some off of Dr. Macro, and the rest from days of trolling thru google.
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PostSat Aug 07, 2010 11:49 am

:) Thanks. The still from HULA really caught my eye. The one with her in the small cap. That one is great. Who is the girl in your Avatar? Sadly, VLN on Ning is shutting down in another week or so. I'm not sure how long this video will be embed here?
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PostSat Aug 07, 2010 8:03 pm

The girl is Clara Bow, from Mantrap.
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PostSun Aug 08, 2010 7:36 am

kndy what program did you use for your colorization?
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PostSun Aug 08, 2010 9:20 am

To get the base color roughly where I want it to be, I use Paint Shop Pro 6, then I start my color layering with ArcSoft Photo Studio. Both are ancient programs, well over ten years old, but they still do the job.
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PostSun Aug 08, 2010 3:52 pm

batterymaker wrote:To get the base color roughly where I want it to be, I use Paint Shop Pro 6, then I start my color layering with ArcSoft Photo Studio. Both are ancient programs, well over ten years old, but they still do the job.


I still use Paint Shop Pro 6 me too :wink:
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PostSun Aug 08, 2010 5:10 pm

Buster95 wrote:kndy what program did you use for your colorization?


Hi Buster, I used Adobe Photoshop (I still use CS3 and haven't upgraded to CS5 yet but you can use any Photoshop really for this). Pretty much I took the original image and created many copied layers....and one I would name "lips", the other "eyes", the other "eyebrows", another would be "hair", "skin", "Background", and so forth and each layer I would focus on that certain part.

I have an 8x11 B&W photo to work with, so it makes it easier to go in there and work on each layer, zoom and carefully erase parts I don't need.

In some ways, I enjoy doing this for speed designing. I also do another similar project in which we try to create as many fake Criterion Collection covers. We have a group on http://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/ that was recently just created.
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PostSun Aug 08, 2010 10:02 pm

kndy wrote:
Buster95 wrote:kndy what program did you use for your colorization?


Hi Buster, I used Adobe Photoshop (I still use CS3 and haven't upgraded to CS5 yet but you can use any Photoshop really for this). Pretty much I took the original image and created many copied layers....and one I would name "lips", the other "eyes", the other "eyebrows", another would be "hair", "skin", "Background", and so forth and each layer I would focus on that certain part.

I have an 8x11 B&W photo to work with, so it makes it easier to go in there and work on each layer, zoom and carefully erase parts I don't need.

In some ways, I enjoy doing this for speed designing. I also do another similar project in which we try to create as many fake Criterion Collection covers. We have a group on http://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/ that was recently just created.


Hmm Photoshop is an expensive program :( Here a link to a program that look very interesting http://akvis.com/en/coloriage/index.php
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PostSun Aug 08, 2010 11:48 pm

Buster95 wrote:Hmm Photoshop is an expensive program :( Here a link to a program that look very interesting http://akvis.com/en/coloriage/index.php


Photoshop is very expensive (and still miffed at their recent upgrading policy, so I haven't upgraded the software in my office yet) but there is an inexpensive program which works great, nearly exactly like Photoshop and its' called Pixelmator. Also, Adobe has their own inexpensive Elements line but my feeling is that if you are able to create layers and have control of those layers to change the color, you can make it happen.

I noticed that many people are starting to use the free application http://www.gimp.org/ and http://www.sumopaint.com/home/.
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PostMon Aug 09, 2010 12:12 am

I appreciate the color you all are putting on the pics, and hey...the more the clara the better in my eyes...As far as silent film fans and B/W, while the pics and films are usually B/W most all of the lobbys' and posters are in color so it is not disrespectful like if they are colorizing the films...
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Colleen Moore Slide-Show

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Only my second slide-show ever! I really need a few Moore stills from ELLA CINDERS and LILAC TIME so I can let that music play a little longer. I think I might have a couple for LILAC TIME. But I could use a few for ELLA CINDERS if anyone could help out? And is there a tie in song for IRENE some place? If so, it would be nice to have extra stills for that as well. Thanks.


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PostMon Aug 09, 2010 6:43 pm

Here's another one I just did. It's from around 1927.

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