Titanic in talkies

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Titanic in talkies

PostWed Apr 11, 2012 7:50 am

I've seen the Titanic scene in Cavalcade, and even the Titanic-inspired Whom the Gods Destroy (1934), with Walter Connolly as a Broadway producer who escapes a sinking ship by dressing as a woman--an apocryphal story from the Titanic sinking, reproduced in the 1953 film--only to wash up on the shore of a Newfoundland fishing village. Then there's the brief Titanic scene in The Unsinkable Molly Brown (after all that buildup!) and a visit to the ship in Terry Gilliam's Time Bandits.

(Going back further, I also re-watched my laserdisc of the 1913 Danish silent feature Atlantis, based on a book written immediately after the disaster.)

What are some other Titanic-related scenes in movies that are not completely about the ship and its sinking?
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PostWed Apr 11, 2012 8:55 am

There's the 1929 British ATLANTIC which is technically not about the Titanic as the ship is called Atlantic and takes place in contemporary (1929) times but for all intents and purposes is the same story.
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PostWed Apr 11, 2012 1:01 pm

BixB wrote:There's the 1929 British ATLANTIC which is technically not about the Titanic as the ship is called Atlantic and takes place in contemporary (1929) times but for all intents and purposes is the same story.


While not a talkie, East Side, West Side has a Titanic scene - replete with the be-dragged escapee. That urban legend has been around since the beginning. IIRC, the story was brought up in the (US?) inquiry in 1912.

There's the German made, nazi-era Titanic, where the sinking is all the fault of the reckless behavior of the English (read jewish) bankers who endangered the lives of the good German passengers and crew.

And a slew of TV. I remember a Time Tunnel episode and TCM recently ran a half-hour 50s docudrama of a love triangle involving grifters/gamblers (with that life-n-death deus ex machina at the end.)
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PostWed Apr 11, 2012 1:25 pm

Later talkies Titanic, Titanic, and The Unsinkable Molly Brown.

There was talk of filming the 90's Broadway musical, Titanic, but that'll never happen.

1979 gave us SOS Titanic and 1980 brought Raise the Titanic

A web site on the Titanic also lists History Is Made at Night, Poseidon Adventure among others and with "Titanic" scenes films like Time Bandits, Ghostbusters 2, No Greater Love, etc.

Apparently a month after the sinking there was a documentary called Saved from the Titanic, which featured an actual survivor who re-enacted her escape.
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PostWed Apr 11, 2012 3:53 pm

s.w.a.c. wrote:What are some other Titanic-related scenes in movies that are not completely about the ship and its sinking?


History is Made at Night has a Titanic-esque denouement. Downton Abbey's first season starts out with the heir to Chats...er...Downton Abbey going down on the Titanic.
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PostWed Apr 11, 2012 10:39 pm

And a slew of TV. I remember a Time Tunnel episode


If I remember correctly, it was the first episode of Time Tunnel, and Susan Hampshire (the Forsyte Saga) was the guest star.

I thought the Titanic inspired ending of History Is Made at Night was brilliant.

Does Saved from the Titanic still exist?
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PostWed Apr 11, 2012 10:47 pm

Frederica wrote:
s.w.a.c. wrote:What are some other Titanic-related scenes in movies that are not completely about the ship and its sinking?


History is Made at Night has a Titanic-esque denouement. Downton Abbey's first season starts out with the heir to Chats...er...Downton Abbey going down on the Titanic.


Well, if we're extending it to TV, in the original Upstairs Downstairs Mrs. Bellamy went down on the Titanic, though her maid survived.

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PostThu Apr 12, 2012 2:32 am

There was also a Titanic-inspired Christmas episode of the David Tennant incarnation of Dr Who, though the plot itself was closer to 'The Poseidon Adventure'.
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PostThu Apr 12, 2012 7:19 am

Brooksie wrote:There was also a Titanic-inspired Christmas episode of the David Tennant incarnation of Dr Who, though the plot itself was closer to 'The Poseidon Adventure'.

And one of the last projects of former Doctor Who scribe Douglas Adams was the novel/computer game Starship Titanic (which is actually quite fun to play with voice work by John Cleese and Terry Jones as a frustrated parrot).
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PostThu Apr 12, 2012 10:35 am

"There's the German made, nazi-era Titanic, where the sinking is all the fault of the reckless behavior of the English (read jewish) bankers who endangered the lives of the good German passengers and crew."

Recently featured in a rather good TV documentary on the making of the German film, that ran in Britain last month and may well turn up on your side of the iceberg pond also. Sadly rather few clips from it.

According to that programme, some of the action sequences from it were recycled in "A Night to Remember". Endless TV programmes running here at present on Titanic themes, both drama, part drama and documentary. Far more programmes than the public can probably stomach.
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PostThu Apr 12, 2012 12:19 pm

In 1960's THE LAST VOYAGE starring Robert Stack, Dorothy Malone and George Sanders, a fictional ship called "Clarendon" (portrayed by the real life ILLE DE FRANCE 1927-59)is sinking slowly, Malone becomes trapped in some falling wreckage after an explosion and Stack and their crying daughter rush frantically to save her. In a tense moment one of the "Clarendon's" officers mentions something about his father and a ship his father knew, a fellow officer says "...what ship was that", the first officer says 'The Titanic' . Quite tense in the scene. All the while this film is unravelling, audience members minds would certainly be on the Titanic story. The real life ILLE DE FRANCE was used as the real life prop ship "Clarendon"(much like Hitchcock wanted to use Leviathan). The producers sank ILLE DE FRANCE slowly then refloated her just to make this movie. All the while she was on her way to the scrapyards. Incidentally ILLE DE FRANCE was the rescue ship during the 1956 sinking of the ANDREA DORIA, one of whose passengers was Hollywood star Ruth Roman and her son. Robert Stack, a few years before he died, recalled the movie at the time Cameron's Titanic film was released, saying , 'yes' we made our Titanic movie too. Great interview.
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PostThu Apr 12, 2012 3:53 pm

barry byrne wrote:"There's the German made, nazi-era Titanic, where the sinking is all the fault of the reckless behavior of the English (read jewish) bankers who endangered the lives of the good German passengers and crew."

Recently featured in a rather good TV documentary on the making of the German film, that ran in Britain last month and may well turn up on your side of the iceberg pond also. Sadly rather few clips from it.

According to that programme, some of the action sequences from it were recycled in "A Night to Remember". Endless TV programmes running here at present on Titanic themes, both drama, part drama and documentary. Far more programmes than the public can probably stomach.

Nazi Titanic on H2 (History Channel 2?) Saturday night-at least on my Chicago Comcast.
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PostThu Apr 12, 2012 5:53 pm

A real stinker was "Titanic 2". It was so obviously photographed on the old R.M.S. Queen Mary now permanently moored at Long Beach, California.
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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 5:12 am

Titanic (1943)
85 min - Action | Drama | History - 12 December 1943 (Finland)

The story of the sinking of the British luxury liner Titanic in 1912.

Director: Herbert Selpin, and 1 more credit »
Writers: Herbert Selpin, Walter Zerlett-Olfenius, and 2 more credits »
Stars: Sybille Schmitz, Hans Nielsen and Kirsten Heiberg

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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 11:30 am

There's an episode of the TV anthology SCREEN DIRECTOR'S PLAYHOUSE (NBC 1956-57) titled "The Titanic Incident", in which the heroine must choose between helping her husband or her lover onto the lifeboat. I haven't seen this episode in years, but I recall that the sinking scenes were very elaborate, and thus likely stock footage from an earlier source. I also remember the final shot, in which the drowning of a cardsharp was represented by a deck of cards floating on the water and a trail of bubbles.
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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 5:48 pm

Which Titanic film qualifies as the first being filmed in color?
SOS TITANIC(made for tv EMI) released in late 1979 or RAISE THE TITANIC released in 1980 but filmed in 1978. Does it count as a first when a film is made or when it actually is released?
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PostSat Apr 14, 2012 6:23 am

Hal Erickson wrote:There's an episode of the TV anthology SCREEN DIRECTOR'S PLAYHOUSE (NBC 1956-57) titled "The Titanic Incident", in which the heroine must choose between helping her husband or her lover onto the lifeboat. I haven't seen this episode in years, but I recall that the sinking scenes were very elaborate, and thus likely stock footage from an earlier source. I also remember the final shot, in which the drowning of a cardsharp was represented by a deck of cards floating on the water and a trail of bubbles.

This was shown on TCM not long ago.

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