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Cinefest

PostFri Mar 02, 2012 10:28 pm

Just wanted to warn everybody. I am attending CINEFEST this year.... for the first time ever.

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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 03, 2012 12:25 am

See you there, Rob!
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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 03, 2012 6:08 am

COOL! You will have fun!
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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 03, 2012 5:41 pm

We are all looking forward to welcoming you to your first Cinefest and to showing our appreciation for all the films that you have allowed Cinefest to screen this year and in years past.
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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 03, 2012 9:08 pm

I would love to take credit for "allowing" films to be shown, but really it is the hard work of the folks in the Film Lab and Moving Image Section of the Library of Congress that make the loaning of films possible. That and the support through tax dollars of the American public. Every once in a while I send something cool up to the Lab to get preserved so I might take some credit for a specific title but then again it is just as likely that Steve Massa, Brent Walker or the sort put me on to the title in the first place. I just glad that we are getting to look at this stuff... and that I get to mess around with it and call it a job!!!
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Re: Cinefest

PostSun Mar 04, 2012 9:14 am

Bor Enots wrote:Just wanted to warn everybody. I am attending CINEFEST this year.... for the first time ever.

Rob


Looking forward to seeing you there!
This will be my 20th Cinefest in a row.
I still look forward to it as much as ever each year.
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Re: Cinefest

PostSun Mar 04, 2012 10:49 am

Bring a seat cushion. While the Holiday Inn is almost as remote as your mountainside grotto, the sceening room seating is strictly chaise de banquet.

http://www.loc.gov/avconservation/theater/index.html" target="_blank
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Re: Cinefest

PostSun Mar 04, 2012 2:18 pm

I'll be there. Be warned.
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Re: Cinefest

PostMon Mar 12, 2012 1:58 pm

I'll be there as well (I seem to only go every other year these days). Look for a bearded Canuck, probably in a cardigan and T-shirt.

Bracing myself for Heid's hot dogs and Dinosaur BBQ. And avoiding downtown during the St. Patrick's Day parade.
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Re: Cinefest

PostTue Mar 20, 2012 2:58 am

Had a great time (as always!)
Thanks to all those who do the work to make it happen.

Any attendees want to post their comments? Favorite films shown, etc.?

(Update) -
I just saw that Cinefest comments are being posted here:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11871
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Re: Cinefest

PostWed Mar 21, 2012 3:14 pm

Had a great time as always, and there were lots of highlights. HIS CAPTIVE WOMAN, even though on video, was a real treat for me, I'm glad Dorothy Mackaill is generating some renewed interest, she lights up the screen in this one. Seeing Clara Bow in 35mm is always a treat, even if GET YOUR MAN isn't one of her top-drawer titles, she still is very appealing (and it was fun to see some footage from the taxi crash in the missing reels later that night in the random batch of Clara clips, including a colour shot of her feeding a pelican in the otherwise lost RED HAIR). I can imagine being a movie viewer in the '20s and becoming completely enamoured of her expressive personality.

I liked the British silent, HELEN OF FOUR GATES quite a bit, some beautiful location photography and some truly hissable villains in the abusive, adoptive father and the cad he picks to be her hateful husband. For some reason, a similar plot in the 35mm HAIL THE WOMAN just put my teeth on edge though, so much clenched fist acting! But I enjoyed the rest of the 35mm program, especially MR FIXIT (love that sudden assault on the white slave trade at the end) and the screwy Hollywood comedy ONCE IN A LIFETIME (although the title seems awfully generic) that opens with Carl Laemmle's statement that only he has the kind of nerve it takes to poke fun at his own industry.

As a big fan of early colour film, the Howard Hughes experimental footage was impressive, and that TOY SHOP short was also in interesting curio. As for MAMBA, part of me wishes I'd taken a nap between the first and final reel, but Hersholt excelled at playing the creepy cad of a plantation owner, and there were other highlights, like the lengthy travelling shot that takes us through the village at the start. And I'm with Louie on Eleanor "Stiff As A" Boardman as the bartered bride, very uninvolving performance there. There was also MATCHMAKING MOMMA, which had its own early "wardrobe malfunction" and a gorgeous Carole Lombard (who wasn't given enough to do). I think I have this, maybe on the Lumivision laserdisc of NOTHING SACRED, but it was great to see it on the big screen.

Really enjoyed the Jack Benny/Fred Allen LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR as well, I thought I'd seen it, but I was probably thinking of IT'S IN THE BAG. Listened to some Fred Allen shows during the drive home too, including ones with guests Charles Laughton and Orson Welles (available for free download at archive.org).
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Re: Cinefest

PostWed Mar 21, 2012 3:25 pm

s.w.a.c. wrote:Seeing Clara Bow in 35mm is always a treat, even if GET YOUR MAN isn't one of her top-drawer titles, she still is very appealing (and it was fun to see some footage from the taxi crash in the missing reels later that night in the random batch of Clara clips, including a colour shot of her feeding a pelican in the otherwise lost RED HAIR). I can imagine being a movie viewer in the '20s and becoming completely enamoured of her expressive personality.


Holy Nitrate, I had no idea that they were showing GET YOUR MAN. How was the quality of the 35mm print shown? I love this film, but I only have a lousy-but-barely-watchable copy on DVD-R (the one that's making the rounds on ebay) which truncates all onscreen shots of notes, etc. to a few frames so you have to pause playback and read. Also, the writeup at the Cinefest site says there's only one missing reel, but I thought two reels were missing...? At any rate, there's definitely some crucial footage missing from my copy, namely the crash. And I didn't know any of the missing footage had been recovered; very cool indeed. A proper as-complete-as-possible restoration of this film, using stills or explanatory intertitles to bridge the gaps, would be most welcome. It's so sad that Paramount allowed so many of Clara's films to turn to dust through plain indifference and neglect.
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Re: Cinefest

PostWed Mar 21, 2012 4:03 pm

The footage was very good, with a few bits of decomp. There are two reels missing- from the middle of the wax museum sequence to a ways into her arrival at the chateau. The recovered footage is just after the crash- Bow steps over to the wrecked car and carefully lays down next to it- after powdering her nose.
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Re: Get Your Man

PostWed Mar 21, 2012 5:21 pm

Some stills from the missing footage of GET YOUR MAN can be seen here:

http://clarabowarchive.tumblr.com/search/GET+YOUR+MAN
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Re: Cinefest

PostWed Mar 21, 2012 5:36 pm

:shock: Wow! What a site! A cornucopia of great photos. Many that I have not seen before. Better not show Speedy this. He might think that he died and went to Clara Bow heaven? Now we need a site that gives us even half as many great photos and press items for Colleen Moore as this one does for Clara.

Thanks much for the links!
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Re: Cinefest

PostWed Mar 21, 2012 6:02 pm

Sweet as Clara Bow and Buddy Rogers are, i didn't much like the film. My neighbor said it was more like "Steal Your Man" and he was right- Clara is determined to get Rogers even though he's very much engaged to another girl, who isn't all that bad either. Her character is a plotting man-stealer who gets into the house on false pretenses and the only thing that makes it remotely tolerable is that Clara is cute and so she's the heroine. I couldn't buy it- like most of her films the plot doesn't hold up.
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Re: Cinefest

PostWed Mar 21, 2012 9:33 pm

Gagman 66 wrote::shock: Wow! What a site! A cornucopia of great photos.
Thanks much for the links!


Thanks Finegan, here comes the crappy colorized photos.
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Re: Cinefest

PostThu Mar 22, 2012 5:11 pm

WaverBoy wrote:
Holy Nitrate, I had no idea that they were showing GET YOUR MAN. How was the quality of the 35mm print shown? I love this film, but I only have a lousy-but-barely-watchable copy on DVD-R (the one that's making the rounds on ebay) which truncates all onscreen shots of notes, etc. to a few frames so you have to pause playback and read. Also, the writeup at the Cinefest site says there's only one missing reel, but I thought two reels were missing...? At any rate, there's definitely some crucial footage missing from my copy, namely the crash.


Yes, I was pretty certain that 2 &3 were missing.
I think I have the same copy as you do.
Some dark scenes? A lot of damage in places?
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Re: Cinefest

PostThu Mar 22, 2012 5:14 pm

FrankFay wrote:Sweet as Clara Bow and Buddy Rogers are, i didn't much like the film. My neighbor said it was more like "Steal Your Man" and he was right- Clara is determined to get Rogers even though he's very much engaged to another girl, who isn't all that bad either. Her character is a plotting man-stealer who gets into the house on false pretenses and the only thing that makes it remotely tolerable is that Clara is cute and so she's the heroine. I couldn't buy it- like most of her films the plot doesn't hold up.

Absolutely. Plus, she's quite happy to lead the Marquis on with a marriage acceptance, knowing she had no intention of marrying him.
But....isn't she just gorgeous though?
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Re: Cinefest

PostThu Mar 22, 2012 9:26 pm

More RED HAIR forthcoming. HER CAPTIVE WOMAN will make it back to film. GET YOUR MAN we will add the MOMA footage.

Cinefest was great fun. Glad I finally got around to attending. Thanks to Gerry, Rick et al.

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Re: Cinefest

PostThu Mar 22, 2012 11:16 pm

Bor Enots,

:o MORE of RED HAIR!!!??? That's great news!


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Re: Get Your Man

PostFri Mar 23, 2012 2:49 pm

Richard Finegan wrote:Some stills from the missing footage of GET YOUR MAN can be seen here:

http://clarabowarchive.tumblr.com/search/GET+YOUR+MAN" target="_blank

LOC's James Cozart said they were looking for stills to flesh out the title cards explaining what's on the missing reels (helped out by that fun bit of footage of Clara powdering her nose after the taxi crash that was in that reel that screened Saturday night). Well, there they are! (Someone else told me that Eastman House also has stills from the picture, so there's some more material they could work with.)

Not sure where the bit with the gun and the rope comes in though.
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Re: Get Your Man

PostFri Mar 23, 2012 3:21 pm

s.w.a.c. wrote:
Richard Finegan wrote:Some stills from the missing footage of GET YOUR MAN can be seen here:


Not sure where the bit with the gun and the rope comes in though.



One of the posters shows her with a gun and rope lassoing a cartooned nobleman. I think they were just publicity and don't directly relate to the film
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Re: Get Your Man

PostFri Mar 23, 2012 10:56 pm

s.w.a.c. wrote:
Richard Finegan wrote:Some stills from the missing footage of GET YOUR MAN can be seen here:

http://clarabowarchive.tumblr.com/search/GET+YOUR+MAN" target="_blank" target="_blank

LOC's James Cozart said they were looking for stills to flesh out the title cards explaining what's on the missing reels...




James' comment is exactly why I posted the link to those stills.

There's another on eBay right now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLARA-BOW-GET-Y ... 5d27ba9539
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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 24, 2012 9:42 am

Wow, great news that GET YOUR MAN is in the process of being properly restored with every last bit of known footage and stills for gap bridging. And, more RED HAIR??? Elaborate please!
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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 24, 2012 10:20 am

FrankFay wrote:
s.w.a.c. wrote:
Richard Finegan wrote:Some stills from the missing footage of GET YOUR MAN can be seen here:


Not sure where the bit with the gun and the rope comes in though.

One of the posters shows her with a gun and rope lassoing a cartooned nobleman. I think they were just publicity and don't directly relate to the film

Yes, I found the poster with that image and posted it in the thread that's in "Silent Screenings" but forgot to cover my tracks and post it here.

Here 'tis!

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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 24, 2012 10:23 am

WaverBoy wrote:Wow, great news that GET YOUR MAN is in the process of being properly restored with every last bit of known footage and stills for gap bridging. And, more RED HAIR??? Elaborate please!

It was just a short colour clip of Clara on a pier with a pelican, pretty much a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment, but delightful to see. As a bird lover, I was also pleased to see a shot of Clara on a porch with a cockatoo, but I'm not sure what film that might have been from. I'm hoping others have figured it out based on whoever's in the clip with her.
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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 24, 2012 10:30 am

Well, when you have hair.... which is something I have less and less of. Anyhow if there is this stuff on your head and it is hair but it isn't kind of yellow or black or brown then maybe it is RED HAIR. Then if you are Clara Bow and make black & white movies so it looks like you are a brunette but then you make one in two-strip Technicolor and it shows that your hair color is so different than what we thought that they call the film RED HAIR it must mean she had RED HAIR or she dyed her whatever color it was hair to make her hair RED HAIR. Is this a good time to mention that people with RED HAIR usually have a shorter life span.... I mean on the average, but that could mean some die extra young due to rampant anti-RED HAIR violence or maybe due to the fact that people with RED HAIR sunburn easy. Is that enough information on RED HAIR?

P.S. Oh, forgot to mention that the Library of Congress has acquired color footage from RED HAIR and you will all get to see it soon. Stay tuned as they say.
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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 24, 2012 10:37 am

I have some rare colour stills of myself feeding a pelican in Cuba, but I doubt anyone's dying to see those. I'm thinking about making a film about it called RED SKIN, although that title may have to be changed due to certain sensitivities.
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Re: Cinefest

PostSat Mar 24, 2012 10:42 am

Paramount's last silent film and first in color was the 1929 Richard Dix starrer: REDSKIN. Preserved by the Library of Congress and on one of the Treasures DVD sets.
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