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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Michael O'Regan » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:27 pm

Joe Migliore wrote: This is like complaining that SAFETY LAST sports a picture of Harold hanging from the clock.
Oh, come now. That's a poor comparison.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Jim Reid » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:20 pm

I had seen pictures of it non-stop for years in Famous Monsters magazine and even had the Aurora plastic model before I saw the film.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by rollot24 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:42 pm

Jim Reid wrote:I had seen pictures of it non-stop for years in Famous Monsters magazine and even had the Aurora plastic model before I saw the film.
Ditto and - as I said before - when I finally did see the film it still scared the daylights out of me.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Darren Nemeth » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:50 pm

Same here.

I first saw Phantom in a Super 8mm Blackhawk digest and it freaked me out despite my seeing stills of Chaney for years previous in books and magazines.
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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Joe Migliore » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:11 am

Michael O'Regan wrote:
Joe Migliore wrote:
This is like complaining that SAFETY LAST sports a picture of Harold hanging from the clock.

Oh, come now. That's a poor comparison.
If you want to convince me, you'll have to do better than that. They are both iconic images, both films are cultural reference points, and they both got their digital make-overs in the 21st Century. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, my friend.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by jrichard88 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:45 am

With all the discussion about the spoiler, may I offer an altogether different observation?

That art just looks way too...modern. It's like Lon Chaney time-traveled 86 years into the future to star in Twilight. Now, I don't think movie companies should always have to use the original artwork for an older film, but at the very least, it should be befitting of both the film and the era in which it was made. Kino, for example, does a great job of this with their silent releases. While I understand this art is trying to attract modern film fans, I'm just not feeling it.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by augustinius » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:28 am

Joe Migliore wrote:
Michael O'Regan wrote:
Joe Migliore wrote:
This is like complaining that SAFETY LAST sports a picture of Harold hanging from the clock.

Oh, come now. That's a poor comparison.
If you want to convince me, you'll have to do better than that. They are both iconic images, both films are cultural reference points, and they both got their digital make-overs in the 21st Century. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, my friend.
How about this?

Safety Last does not structurally build to a surprise reveal of the clock as a peak in the action. The clock is just one of several jaw-dropping stunts that got remembered well in cultural memory.

The Phantom of the Opera builds momentum for the entire film around the unmasking scene and it arguably is the high point of the movie, and in 1925 would have been the major calling card for people to see it.

That said, yeah, hard to "spoil" a movie that is 86 years old. Some things are public domain now, and it isn't like telling someone the end of a mystery. It doesn't ruin the movie.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Joe Migliore » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:49 am

augustinius wrote:
Safety Last does not structurally build to a surprise reveal of the clock as a peak in the action. The clock is just one of several jaw-dropping stunts that got remembered well in cultural memory.

The Phantom of the Opera builds momentum for the entire film around the unmasking scene and it arguably is the high point of the movie, and in 1925 would have been the major calling card for people to see it.

That said, yeah, hard to "spoil" a movie that is 86 years old. Some things are public domain now, and it isn't like telling someone the end of a mystery. It doesn't ruin the movie.
A valid point, and well argued, but your last sentence sums of the whole matter: It doesn't ruin the movie.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by sc1957 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:04 am

jrichard88 wrote:That art just looks way too...modern.
I like the original posters that were discussed earlier in this thread, but I don't think most of the modern movie-buying public would give them a second glance.
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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Michael O'Regan » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:48 am

augustinius wrote:
Joe Migliore wrote:
Michael O'Regan wrote:
Joe Migliore wrote:
This is like complaining that SAFETY LAST sports a picture of Harold hanging from the clock.

Oh, come now. That's a poor comparison.
If you want to convince me, you'll have to do better than that. They are both iconic images, both films are cultural reference points, and they both got their digital make-overs in the 21st Century. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, my friend.
How about this?

Safety Last does not structurally build to a surprise reveal of the clock as a peak in the action. The clock is just one of several jaw-dropping stunts that got remembered well in cultural memory.

The Phantom of the Opera builds momentum for the entire film around the unmasking scene and it arguably is the high point of the movie, and in 1925 would have been the major calling card for people to see it.
You beat me to it. Thanks.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Jim Reid » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:01 pm

How can the whole film build to the unmasking scene when it occurs halfway through the film? I think it's an iconic moment, but it's not the whole point of the film. This is much aggravation over nothing.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Mike Gebert » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:02 pm

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Jim Reid » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:04 pm

Brilliant!

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Darren Nemeth » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:10 pm

Quit your bitching!!

I am glad that ANY film from the 1920s is on ANY mainstream video format!

Go out and get a life. Bunch of SHUT INS.
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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Dan Oliver » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:16 pm

I wish Nitrateville had a Like button. I literally laughed out loud, Mike.
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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Michael O'Regan » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:44 pm

Jim Reid wrote:How can the whole film build to the unmasking scene when it occurs halfway through the film? I think it's an iconic moment, but it's not the whole point of the film. This is much aggravation over nothing.
I don't think the poster said it builds TO the unmasking scene, but that the films momentum is built AROUND the scene, which I think is pretty accurate. It's like a pivot point in the film.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Michael O'Regan » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:45 pm

Dan Oliver wrote:I wish Nitrateville had a Like button. I literally laughed out loud, Mike.
Me too. Excellent :lol:

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by Michael O'Regan » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:46 pm

Jim Reid wrote: This is much aggravation over nothing.
Oh, but we do it so well.
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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by augustinius » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:29 pm

Michael O'Regan wrote:
Jim Reid wrote: This is much aggravation over nothing.
Oh, but we do it so well.
:twisted:
Yeah, that was my intent in my hypothetical argument -- we can argue a point in theory, just for fun, but then at some point admit that the point is pretty useless.

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Re: Cover Art for Image Phantom

Post by silentfilm » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:46 pm

That's a funny BluRay cover, but "mother" is not unmasked until the end of Psycho.

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