More Questions About Ordering Copies Of PD Films From LoC

[misteranalog]

I would like to order a PD film from the LoC before the end of this year.
I will probably initially order a film made before 1920 that is less than an hour long and see what I can do with it,
such as The Cheat, 1914, 59 minutes.
I am experiencing a few difficulties in understanding the information they provide.
The LoC rate sheet is at: http://www.loc.gov/rr/mopic/rates.html" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

One problem is that LoC sell copies of HD films in a 24 fps format,
BUT: silent films made around 1914 were originally projected at about 14 fps.
My question: which particular HD format would be easiest to convert on a home computer to DVD-R format without flickering?
I plan to tint the film and offer it in DVD-R format thru Createspace, https://www.createspace.com/Products/DVD/" target="_blank" target="_blank
LoC offers:
ProRes 4:2:2 (MOV wrapper) – standard or HQ
DNxHD (MXF wrapper) – 175 mbps (10-bit) or 115 mbps (8-bit)
H.264 – 6 mbps

If none of these above HD formats are suitable for conversion to DVD-R,
would one of the LoC's standard definition formats be more suitable for conversion without flickering, such as MPEG-2?
I don't require a 35mm-type of sharp image, but do want to be able to make out the faces of the actors.
I may develop a few more questions down the line.......

[BenModel]

The films are scanned/output at this rate to so that you have one frame of video (at 24p) for each frame of film. You then do your speed-adjustment in Final Cut or Adobe Premiere. You can leave "frame-blending" on to avoid jerkiness, especially if you want your final output to match the speed the film was shot at, although I understand usually people prefer to leave this setting de-selected (I know that's what I did).

Ben

[misteranalog]

Some questions for anyone who has actually purchased a film from the LoC:
http://www.loc.gov/rr/mopic/ordform.pdf -page 2

(1) Where did you get the "LC number" from?
(2) Does" film footage" mean the number of reels?
Do we need to also include the "Video/Minutes" information with the "film footage"? where to get it?
(3) I have no idea where to look up "donor status." Should I first send LoC an e-mail to get this information?

I have a few copyright search reports. Several include " LP" numbers, e.g. The Hunchback of Notre Dame, 1923, has the LP number of LP19381. Are LP numbers an early version of what we now call LC numbers?

[Christopher Jacobs]

Some questions for anyone who has actually purchased a film from the LoC:
http://www.loc.gov/rr/mopic/ordform.pdf -page 2

(1) Where did you get the "LC number" from?
(2) Does" film footage" mean the number of reels?
Do we need to also include the "Video/Minutes" information with the "film footage"? where to get it?
(3) I have no idea where to look up "donor status." Should I first send LoC an e-mail to get this information?

I have a few copyright search reports. Several include " LP" numbers, e.g. The Hunchback of Notre Dame, 1923, has the LP number of LP19381. Are LP numbers an early version of what we now call LC numbers?

I have not ordered from LoC, so can't answer questions 1 or 3, but "film footage" refers to the original 35mm film print. There are approximately 800 to 1,000 feet per reel for most movies. Every foot of standard 35mm film has 16 frames, so "running time" is irrelevant, as the film is typically projected at whatever speed the projectionist feels looks appropriate, varying from 12 to 30+ frames per second (more typically a range of 50 feet per minute to 100 feet per minute, or about 14 fps to about 28 fps). If film footage is transferred at one frame to one frame, that would be 30 fps for standard-definition NTSC video, 25 fps for standard-definition PAL video, or 24 fps for HD video, and you'll have to calculate the number of seconds from your footage total.

[drednm]

This is the easiest way.

Send an email to Rosemary Hanes at [email protected]" target="_blank with your film query. She will send you the specifics and let you know if the film is in good enough shape, etc.

She will get all the basic information and pass it on to the "production" people (like Gerald Hatfield) and they will send you a final price for the specific film you request.

Any other method will drive you nuts. It'll take a few business days or more but at least your query goes to specific people who will follow thru.....

And be prepared for "sticker shock." My last request for Marion Davies' Enchantment came in close to $1,100.00 !!!