LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT - And it's not even April 1st .. !!!

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LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT - And it's not even April 1st .. !!!

Unread post by Scoundrel » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:22 am

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Re: LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT - And it's not even April 1st .. !

Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:15 pm

Hoo boy, here we go...

To save some trouble, here's the image posted on the Canary Islands Film Archive (!) page:

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And here's a LAM still (with Conrad Nagel & Henry B.Walthall) from the same scene:

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And here's another so-called film frame from the Canary site:

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Let the speculation begin.
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Unread post by Spiny Norman » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:29 pm

This just proves one thing: There IS life after the IMDB boards shutdown.
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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:57 pm

Finally, moving footage from London After Midnight!

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(So the consensus I'm seeing on the Classic Horror Film Board seems to be the two frames posted by the Filmoteca Canaria were found in some sort of collector's scrapbook, likely snipped from a trailer years ago.)
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Unread post by kaleidoscopeworld » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:36 pm

Yes, frame clippings from the album of a projectionist or collector.

The people on that thread are discussing how the Nagel/Wathall/Chaney frame is at a different angle to the publicity stills - some seem to think that points to it being a fake. I don't really get it - it doesn't seem at all suspicious to me that a publicity still would be taken from a slightly different spot.
In fact, it would be more surprising if the still taker managed to put the camera in precisely the same spot, with completely comparable lens and focal length, exact compensation for the sizes of still v. motion picture film, etc ...

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Unread post by mwalls » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:35 pm

One of these days the story may very well be true. Who knows about this one...I will just let it play out until either it is real or another hoax. Not getting excited either way. I am not sure I want it to be found. After all of the hype and anticipation, it will seem a disappointment when the film ends. It just can't be that good.

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Unread post by The Blackbird » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:18 am

Ah, still tantalizing to see those frames, they almost look like the figures are about to start moving....

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Unread post by All Darc » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:34 pm

Looks very dupped:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/filmoteca ... 1/sizes/o/" target="_blank
"Fotograma de nitrato perteneciente al álbum de películas adquirido por la Filmoteca Canaria en los años 90 a un coleccionista particular"

Nitrate frames acquired form a collector in the 90's


If a print was made from a original print, with 20's film stock and not great printer, would look like that or so.

It's not a photoshop still to look like footage, as the camere axis, lenses, from teh still do not match:

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It's it's probably just a album from folm frames, made decades ago, and the source print no longer exist.
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Unread post by All Darc » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:00 pm

A true 35mm frame from Chaney's Hunchback of Notre Dame:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/filmoteca ... 3/sizes/o/" target="_blank


Battle of The Century ?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/filmoteca ... 6/sizes/o/" target="_blank
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Unread post by Donald Binks » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:48 pm

If every projectionist had snipped a few frames out of every print of "LAM" and then these frames had found their way into collections - and then these collections ended up in a central source - why - we could have a complete print of the picture! Hooray! Put up the flag, bring out the champagne, light up the streets..... :D
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Unread post by All Darc » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:39 pm

If they found this film, and it's highly umprobrable (due prints distribution politic back then), the film would lost the mystery. People would find out it's not as scaring as they imagined.
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Unread post by Big Silent Fan » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:25 pm

All Darc wrote: People would find out it's not as scaring as they imagined.
The already available 'reconstruction' of the entire film (using the many still photos available), confirms that while this was a great detective story, it certainly wasn't scary. It's actually more like a lampoon of Silent horror films, something like "The Cat and the Canary."

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Unread post by EdibleCamphor » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:06 pm

I doubt that this means the discovery of the entire film, but this could mean that at least one reel may survive!
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Unread post by wich2 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:49 am

Considering that -

- 1. Browning was an erratic director, hardly hitting homeruns every time at bat.
- 2. His own remake is a pedestrian cheat (though nice looking and sounding.)

- the odds of LAM being a Lost Classic are not high.

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Unread post by mwalls » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:14 am

I wonder what will happen to the value of the movie paper if/when the film is found and it is not a lost classic. For example for the person who in 2014 paid over $470,000 for a one-sheet, or the well over $1,000 per lobby cards.

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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:13 pm

mwalls wrote:I wonder what will happen to the value of the movie paper if/when the film is found and it is not a lost classic. For example for the person who in 2014 paid over $470,000 for a one-sheet, or the well over $1,000 per lobby cards.
I can't imagine it'd change that much, considering how collectible Chaney material is, and how attractive the artwork for most of his films is. I have a friend who snared a Coming Attractions slide for LAM, but he didn't have to pay through the nose for it.

One of my favourite Chaney collecting stories is the Phantom of the Opera six-sheet poster that was found to have been decorating the wall of a Philadelphia (I think) pizzeria for decades. It did go to auction eventually, and I'm sure sold for five or six figures.

Just checked, this is the poster, and it sold for around $90,000 in 1995.

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Meanwhile, Nicolas Cage sold his Phantom one-sheet (the only one that shows his face) a few years ago for $203,000.
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