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Re: LA Times: Early Alfred Hitchcock effort discovered

Post by FrankFay » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:46 am

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FrankFay wrote:I would ditch this picture (and a couple of other Hitchcocks) to see the rediscovery of something of REAL importance.

Yes, such as HATS OFF.

I mean more like THE QUEEN OF SHEBA, or one prime Theda Bara picture. It's nice finding (for example) a new Chaney picture, but his career is pretty well represented overall...though I'd like to see Quincy Adams Sawyer. How ever, Douglas Montgomery was a very popular star and almost none of his work remains.
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Re: LA Times: Early Alfred Hitchcock effort discovered

Post by Kelly » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:07 pm

Kinda sucks that Douglas Montogoery his movies are not available KINDA SUCKS who own the right to that

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Kelly wrote:Kinda sucks that Douglas Montogomery his movies are not available KINDA SUCKS who own the right to that
Not so much a question of rights as existence- most of his films are believed to be lost.
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Re: LA Times: Early Alfred Hitchcock effort discovered

Post by Penfold » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:52 pm

I can see the reviews for The White Shadow now. If it looks great, Hitchcock will get the credit. If it looks ordinary or worse - not that the stills bear such pessimism out - Cutts will get the blame. As if Hitchcock didn't direct some ordinary silents, and Cutts didn't direct some silent crackers without Hitch's involvement.....
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Lost silent Hitchcock film found in NZ

Post by sepiatone » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:54 pm

cnn has it that Alfred Hitchcock's 1923 THE WHITE SHADOW has been discovered in a vault in New Zealand.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/03/lo ... w-zealand/" target="_blank" target="_blank

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Re: Lost silent Hitchcock film found in NZ

Post by sepiatone » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:58 pm

not technicallly a Hitchcock film if you talk about directing. But he seemingly did 'everything' else on the production.
http://www.silentera.com/PSFL/data/W/Wh ... w1923.html" target="_blank

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Re: Lost silent Hitchcock film found in NZ

Post by CoffeeDan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:10 pm

I think you might have missed this thread . . .
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Reason: Note: I merged these threads together. - Bruce the moderator

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Re: LA Times: Early Alfred Hitchcock effort discovered

Post by silentfilm » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:14 pm

http://www.hawkesbaytoday.co.nz/local/n ... -/3961832/" target="_blank

Hawke's Bay collector's haul hides Alfred Hitchcock film
ROGER MORONEY | 4th August 2011

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STAR ROLE: Betty Compson in The White Shadow (1923). Photo / Supplied
Another slice of rare, but not quite forgotten, silver has been uncovered from a collection of nitrate films which had been gathered through the years by the late Jack Murtagh of Hastings.

It is three reels of the first film made by Alfred Hitchcock in 1923 called The White Shadow and they are the only reels of the film thought to exist.

The discovery, by American film archivist Leslie Lewis, may have been something of a fluke as Mr Murtagh's grandson Tony Osborne (who donated the collection to the New Zealand Film Archive nearly 20 years ago) said many of the containers had different description tags on them.

"Some of this stuff is labelled and some not," Mr Osborne said today, adding his grandfather would have been bemused at the fuss his old collection was causing.

The latest discovery has echoed the excitement which rippled through the US National Film Preservation Archive this year when a treasure trove of old nitrate films, many rare and unseen for decades, were uncovered at the New Zealand Film Archive.

Nineteen of those 75 Kiwi-collected and donated films were from the collection of Mr Murtagh, who had worked as a projectionist in Hastings for 25 years, and who died in 1989 aged 76.

Among the earlier finds was a copy of Upstream - a silent film made by director John Ford in 1927 and the only known copy to exist.

It too had been collected by Mr Murtagh.

The recently uncovered three reels were all that had been found of the original six-reel film, along with several comedies, shorts and newsreels made in the US but no longer available there.

"This is one of the most significant developments in memory for scholars, critics, and admirers of Hitchcock's extraordinary body of work," chairman of the National Society of Film Critics, David Sterritt, said.

"At just 24 years old, Alfred Hitchcock wrote the film's scenario, designed the sets, edited the footage, and served as assistant director to Graham Cutts, whose professional jealousy toward the gifted upstart made the job all the more challenging."

Mr Sterritt said Hitchcock's own directorial debut came only two years later, and discovering the first three reels of The White Shadow-more than half the film-offered a "priceless" opportunity to study his visual and narrative ideas when they were first taking shape.

Mr Osborne said there was so much old nitrate film stored, labelled and otherwise, that it would not be surprising if more important finds were made.

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Slate: Lost Hitchcock Feature Unearthed: And it's Got an Evi

Post by silentfilm » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:31 pm

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/201 ... and_a.html" target="_blank

Lost Hitchcock Feature Unearthed: And it's Got an Evil Twin in It!
By Nina Shen Rastogi

| Posted Wednesday, Aug. 3, 2011, at 11:08 AM EDT

For film fans, this is shaping up to be a very good Hump Day: It’s just been announced that the first 30 minutes of The White Shadow, believed to be the earliest surviving feature credited to Alfred Hitchcock, has been discovered in a New Zealand archive.* It had been sitting there, notes the Los Angeles Times, in a cache of unidentified (and highly unstable) American nitrate prints since the late 1980s, mislabeled as "Twin Sisters."

When Hitchcock worked on The White Shadow—as writer, assistant director, editor, and production designer—he was only 24; his feature directorial debut, The Pleasure Garden, was still two years away. (Apparently the director, Graham Cutts, did not take too kindly to his talented young colleague.) Film historians note that the discovery offers an unprecedented chance to study how Hitchcock began to develop his distinctive Hitchcock-ness. In fact, it was the "visual mastery" of two frames—one of a woman smoking and one of a pair of hands holding an array of playing cards—that first tipped off an archivist that these particular reels might be something special.

Even non-cinema connoisseurs should find the film juicy, however. According to the National Film Preservation Board, which gathered the funding to tackle the film’s restoration, the silent feature is

an atmospheric melodrama starring Betty Compson, in a dual role as twin sisters—one angelic and the other "without a soul." With mysterious disappearances, mistaken identity, steamy cabarets, romance, chance meetings, madness, and even the transmigration of souls, the wild plot crams a lot into six reels. Critics faulted the improbable story but praised the acting and "cleverness of the production."

In the three reels that survive, the evil twin, Nancy—a free-spirited modern woman of the 1920s—goes missing and "resurfaces in Paris, where she becomes a habitué of the bohemian nightclubs," as the first slideshow on this page puts it.


Let a thousand dissertations bloom!

Elsewhere in Slate: Nathaniel Rich on The Lady Vanishes, Hitchcock's first Hitchcock film.

[h/t to Pat's Papers]

Correction, August 3: An earlier version of this post said that The White Shadow was Hitchcock's earliest feature; it is believed to be Hitchcock's earliest surviving feature.

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Correction, August 3: An earlier version of this post said that The White Shadow was Hitchcock's earliest feature; it is believed to be Hitchcock's earliest surviving feature.
*Facepalm.*
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Re: Slate: Lost Hitchcock Feature Unearthed: And it's Got an

Post by Penfold » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:21 pm

Frederica wrote:
silentfilm wrote:
Correction, August 3: An earlier version of this post said that The White Shadow was Hitchcock's earliest feature; it is believed to be Hitchcock's earliest surviving feature.
*Facepalm.*
I sympathise. We've been doing a lot of facepalming over here since this story broke.... :roll:
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Re: LA Times: Early Alfred Hitchcock effort discovered

Post by Kelly » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:45 pm

Quoting Homer Simpson DOF :mrgreen:

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Post by Richard Finegan » Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:53 am

Frederica wrote:
*Facepalm.*
Okay, I'll be the first to ask (and I hope I'm not the only one who needs to ask):
What does "facepalm" mean?

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Post by Penfold » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:17 am

Richard Finegan wrote:
Frederica wrote:
*Facepalm.*
Okay, I'll be the first to ask (and I hope I'm not the only one who needs to ask):
What does "facepalm" mean?
This is the most expressive example I could find.......

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Re: LA Times: Early Alfred Hitchcock effort discovered

Post by Brooksie » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:25 pm

Salon.com has also weighed in to the discovery of `The White Shadow', and the fetish around lost films in general, at http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movi ... index.html.

It is followed by a rather disappointing list of `lost' films, the majority of which are things like `The Day The Clown Cried', which undoubtedly exist but are not readily accessible.

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Re: LA Times: Early Alfred Hitchcock effort discovered

Post by FrankFay » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:42 am

The poster lost me entirely with this description (emphasis mine)

"The Great Gatsby (Herbert Brenon, 1926) Admittedly, the surviving trailer for this Paramount Pictures instant adaptation of F. Scott Fitzgerald's classic novel -- the first of three (and soon to be four) Hollywood versions -- makes it look like a stiff, stagey, utterly run-of-the-mill mid-'20s silent. Brenon was a studio director with no particular renown and the cast consists of actors whose names mean little to us today: Warner Baxter as Gatsby! Lois Wilson as Daisy!"(cut)
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Re: LA Times: Early Alfred Hitchcock effort discovered

Post by Brooksie » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:48 am

Well, distasteful as we may find it, the writer is correct about the actors. Ask the average person on the street who Lois Wilson is, and they're going to draw a blank. It's sad but true.

The comment on Herbert Brenon is annoying but unsurprising, especially in light of the pummelling Graham Cutts has received in the media recently. I could barely name the last mainstream article that discussed silent film with much accuracy.

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Re: LA Times: Early Alfred Hitchcock effort discovered

Post by FrankFay » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:10 am

Brooksie wrote:Well, distasteful as we may find it, the writer is correct about the actors. Ask the average person on the street who Lois Wilson is, and they're going to draw a blank. It's sad but true.

The comment on Herbert Brenon is annoying but unsurprising, especially in light of the pummelling Graham Cutts has received in the media recently. I could barely name the last mainstream article that discussed silent film with much accuracy.
You're correct, but to me it also shows that film commentary is now written by people who don't know very much about film history, and probably don't care.
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