The Wizard of Oz in Imax and 3D

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Re: The Wizard of Oz in Imax and 3D

Post by dr.giraud » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:55 pm

David of The Alps wrote:Oh? That is really odd because on other sites I have been reading how successful it was in the States, and how in some towns it was held over for an extra week due to demand for tickets. I.e it ran for two weeks instead of one.
It was held over in Albany, N.Y. The last week it was morning shows, split with GRAVITY 3D.
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Re: The Wizard of Oz in Imax and 3D

Post by Donald Binks » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:14 pm

I have made enquiries concerning an Australian release *(in Melbourne) and I understand that negotiations are taking place for performances to occur sometime in the first half of next year.
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Re: The Wizard of Oz in Imax and 3D

Post by All Darc » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:18 pm

How they can say it is IMAX, if we are talking about a film made with emulsion and lenses from late 30's????

IMAX if I recall well, the promise, was that it had very high resolution.

A real Imax screen it's giant, and I supose a 2K resokution (3D conversion was worked in 2K only as someone said) from 1938 film emuslion and lens would not look great on it.

The only company that could really get some extra resolution for old films by very complex digital tools that analyzed details in frame sequence, or reduce grain without blur details, was Lonwry Digital, but after be sold to India it went to shadows and no major restoration work it's in their hands.
In a clip of the Wizard of Oz restoration for the 3D version, we saw a grain reduction being applied, and some detaisl got blured. Lowry tools wold managed it better.
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Post by fwtep » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:43 pm

Yes, that was me who said the conversion was done at 2k. A friend of mine supervised it. And you'd be surprised at what different resolutions look like on the big screen. Properly handled, even 1k can look spectacular on a 50 foot tall Imax screen. Don't be fooled by the idea of 4k, 6k, and 8k. In production and post-production the higher the resolution the better, but for projection, including uprezzing for Imax, 2k is fine. (The reason why you want higher resolution in production and post production is so you have more control over the details and can, if necessary, reframe a shot.)

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Re: The Wizard of Oz in Imax and 3D

Post by David Alp » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:11 pm

Donald Binks wrote:I have made enquiries concerning an Australian release *(in Melbourne) and I understand that negotiations are taking place for performances to occur sometime in the first half of next year.
I thought it was shown in Australia before it was shown in America? How odd? All of these stupid rumours that go round! Makes me mad! So it wasn't shown in Australia first? Is that right?


Regarding the film grain. I would love to see the original film grain blown up. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I would want to see it blown up to a massive size regardless of original 1938 grain.

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Re: The Wizard of Oz in Imax and 3D

Post by All Darc » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:47 am

Uhhnnn... wait a second...

1K it' between SD (480P) and HD (1080P).
I don't think 1K it's good in very large screen.

And one thing is a 2K from a 5K original or from a 70mm or a modern emulsion from a super 35mm, and another thing is a 2K from a film shot with lenses and emulsions from 1938.

fwtep wrote:Yes, that was me who said the conversion was done at 2k. A friend of mine supervised it. And you'd be surprised at what different resolutions look like on the big screen. Properly handled, even 1k can look spectacular on a 50 foot tall Imax screen. Don't be fooled by the idea of 4k, 6k, and 8k. In production and post-production the higher the resolution the better, but for projection, including uprezzing for Imax, 2k is fine. (The reason why you want higher resolution in production and post production is so you have more control over the details and can, if necessary, reframe a shot.)
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Re: The Wizard of Oz in Imax and 3D

Post by fwtep » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:53 pm

All Darc wrote:Uhhnnn... wait a second...

1K it' between SD (480P) and HD (1080P).
I don't think 1K it's good in very large screen.
It doesn't really matter what you think, it matters what reality is. And 1k can look fine on a very large screen.

All Darc wrote:And one thing is a 2K from a 5K original or from a 70mm or a modern emulsion from a super 35mm, and another thing is a 2K from a film shot with lenses and emulsions from 1938.
Again, you are thinking something is not possible but ignoring that not only IS it possible, but it's been done and looks great.

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Re: The Wizard of Oz in Imax and 3D

Post by All Darc » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:59 pm

People complained about some scenesJurassic Park looks quite blury on IMAX, cause the CGI originally rendered in HD scenes where converted to 3D without improve details.



But there are more than one size of IMAX screen.


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Re: The Wizard of Oz in Imax and 3D

Post by fwtep » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:02 pm

I saw Jurassic Park in 3D but not Imax, so I can't vouch for it. Where did you see people complain? There's only 6 1/2 minutes of CG in the film, so are those people sure they're talking about CG scenes, not the animatronic scenes? Titanic was done at 2k too and I did see that in full Imax and it looked great-- I was surprised at how great it looked, actually.

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