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One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:01 pm
by sepiatone
The Library of Congress has THROUGH THE DARK a Goldwyn release. It was made before FLAMING YOUTH but released afterwards. I tried the search function to see if anyone talked about this film.

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:11 pm
by drednm
How did you find this? I can't locate it.....

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:29 pm
by Wm. Charles Morrow
sepiatone wrote:The Library of Congress has THROUGH THE DARK a Goldwyn release. It was made before FLAMING YOUTH but released afterwards. I tried the search function to see if anyone talked about this film.
I found the listing in FIAF, but there's an added note: "incomplete (dupe negative: reels 1-6 of 8; access copy: reel 1 only)."

So, yes, the bulk of the film does exist, but at the present time only the first reel is available for viewing.

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:22 pm
by sepiatone
drednm wrote:How did you find this? I can't locate it.....
from the printed AFI guide, they have it lettered F. I. P which simply means F- it's a Feature, I - It's Incomplete, P- Preserved and for viewing. Since this guide is from the late 70s I would only guess that what was nitrate then has been acetated by now. Incomplete is a grabbag as many films deemed incomplete then, have since been viewed in complete form. Despite it's age this book is rarely wrong. I love it as it showed the AFI/LoC reaching out to the public letting them know what's going on with the films, my only regret is that it should have seen updates in the past few decades. But probably much FIAF data has come out of this book.

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:36 pm
by sepiatone
Wm. Charles Morrow wrote:
sepiatone wrote:The Library of Congress has THROUGH THE DARK a Goldwyn release. It was made before FLAMING YOUTH but released afterwards. I tried the search function to see if anyone talked about this film.
I found the listing in FIAF, but there's an added note: "incomplete (dupe negative: reels 1-6 of 8; access copy: reel 1 only)."

So, yes, the bulk of the film does exist, but at the present time only the first reel is available for viewing.
that's what 'incomplete' can mean. It could mean a number of things. Reels 7 & 8 may not necessarily be lost, they could be on loan, they could be in nitrate or the data in FIAF could be old as well and not been updated. But it shows the film survives in some kind of form. The info about the reelage is more than I knew however.

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:11 pm
by drednm
I did a search on the LOC website and came up with nothing.....

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:11 pm
by telical
Not sure how long the first will be a permanent link:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2 ... 13,5025603" target="_blank

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/113670/ ... k/overview" target="_blank

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:14 pm
by Gagman 66
sepiatone,

:o I knew about THROUGH THE DARK existing in some form, but lacked details. So thanks for the revelation. Also curious if anymore material has turned up on THE NTH COMMANDMENT or not?

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Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:45 pm
by WaverBoy
Aw man, I REALLY wanna see this...I hope it can be restored and made available at some point.

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:16 pm
by sepiatone
I got a chance to thumb through the new Colleen Moore book (at a local college) and went through the filmography section. It is listed that this film survives in only two reels. The author doesn't state at what preservation facility or maybe even meaning the two reels are the LoC's copy.

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:08 am
by craig2010
This is the only existing copy per various extant and soon-to-be-published databases but a collector or foreign archive might always have one. From LC public ard catalog

FEA 6155 (print) AFI/Anonymous4
FPB 5587-5591 (neg)
FPB 5592 (neg)
FPB 5593 (neg)
rrHROUGH THE DARK"
, A Cosmopolitan Production. 1924. Distributed by Gold\rjnCosmopolitan. The Cosmopolitan Corporation Presents. By Jack Boyle. Director: George Hill. Photographers, L. W~lliam O'Connell and Allen Siegler. Credits from AFI Cat. 2 versions of r6; titles and sequence and some footage vexy. FPB 5592 made from master print; Yf'B 5593 made from 'Workprint. ©William Randolph Hearst; 6Jun24; LP19917. On film:
©1923.
~
Continued on next card
Card 2
ttTHRDUGH THE DARK"
lr of 8 (rl) , 850 ft., si., b&w, 35mm REF PRIIIT. 5r of 8 (rl-5), 4147 ft., si., b&w, 35mm DUPE 1~G. Ilr of 8 (r6) , 963 ft., si., b&w, 35mm DUPE }lEG. \lr of 8 (r6) , 977 ft., si., b&w, 35mm DUPE NEG.
'Rcvd 11/11/74; acq as safety. ATM 47, box 13.
Colleen Moore (Mary McGinn) , Forrest Stanley.
Cast:
SAFETY FILM

Re: One More Colleen Moore silent 'not lost'

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:47 pm
by sepiatone
thanks much Craig!