Gagman 66 wrote: There may or may not be rights issues, but I think that the main thing that is keeping the film off TCM so far is that it doesn't have a recorded musical score. It doesn't have a Broadcast master either. Much the same with MAN, WOMAN & SIN who no one has mentioned here yet.
O.K. I'll mention it. I have a copy of "Man, Woman, and Sin" with a generic, but not unpleasant, musical score. The transfer is not perfect either, but it does not distract from the enjoyment of this compelling film. Despite all the predictable cliches in the story, it is quite good.
And it goes to prove what Norman Bates once said: "A boy's best friend is his mother."
Danny
Re: Man Woman and Sin (1927)
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:30 am
by entredeuxguerres
Danny wrote:
And it goes to prove what Norman Bates once said: "A boy's best friend is his mother."
Danny
If this is an apt summary of the theme of this picture, I think I'll keep shopping.
Re: Man Woman and Sin (1927)
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:17 am
by CoffeeDan
You can still watch MAN, WOMAN, AND SIN on YouTube (in 7 parts -- here's the first):
The print condition isn't the best, but it's watchable. It immediately became one of my favorite John Gilbert performances . . . incredibly moving. This one NEEDS to be on DVD, in any way possible . . .
Re: Man Woman and Sin (1927)
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:49 am
by filmnotdigital
As I recall, at the end of D'Arrast's delicious "Topaze" with John Barrymore and Myrna Loy, you see a movie theater
playing "Man Woman And Sin," an hommage to his colleague Monta Bell.Both directors were disciples of Chaplin
but also show the influence of Lubitsch.
Re: Man Woman and Sin (1927)
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:00 pm
by Bob Birchard
Danny wrote:Gagman 66 wrote: There may or may not be rights issues, but I think that the main thing that is keeping the film off TCM so far is that it doesn't have a recorded musical score. It doesn't have a Broadcast master either. Much the same with MAN, WOMAN & SIN who no one has mentioned here yet.
O.K. I'll mention it. I have a copy of "Man, Woman, and Sin" with a generic, but not unpleasant, musical score. The transfer is not perfect either, but it does not distract from the enjoyment of this compelling film. Despite all the predictable cliches in the story, it is quite good.
And it goes to prove what Norman Bates once said: "A boy's best friend is his mother."
Danny
The main thing keeping "Man, Woman and Sin" off TCM is that Turner/Warners no longer have any rights. The film was sold to Universal for remake, but the copyright is still in effect--so to clear a public screening one would need an okay from Universal (who have not material), a "no objection" from Warner Bros. and a willingness on the part of Warners to make a print available. It is (or was) Warners policy not to license collectors' prints.
Re: Man Woman and Sin (1927)
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:53 pm
by Gagman 66
It's my understanding that Jeanne Eagels was fired a little over midway through production of MAN, WOMAN & SIN at the bequest of director Monta Bell. So mush of the remainder of the movie was pieced together though outtakes. It was never really filmed. This explains the rather abrupt ending. Much of the planned trial had to be scrapped. They didn't want to have start over with a different leading lady at that point. Kevin Brownlow mentioned that there were rights issues back in 2008 when he was a guest on Silver Screen Oasis.
It's my understanding that Jeanne Eagels was fired a little over midway through production of MAN, WOMAN & SIN at the bequest of director Monta Bell. So mush of the remainder of the movie was pieced together though outtakes. It was never really filmed. This explains the rather abrupt ending. Much of the planned trial had to be scrapped. They didn't want to have start over with a different leading lady at that point. Kevin Brownlow mentioned that there were rights issues back in 2008 when he was a guest on Silver Screen Oasis.