Possible LOC projects
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EYE have a Talmadge from the Desmet collection, most probably. It's on the European Film Gateway, for the Talmadge fans: http://www.europeanfilmgateway.eu/sites ... &width=600" target="_blank
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Re: Possible LOC projects
Spiny Norman wrote:EYE have a Talmadge from the Desmet collection, most probably. It's on the European Film Gateway, for the Talmadge fans: http://www.europeanfilmgateway.eu/sites ... &width=600" target="_blank" target="_blank
Dutch title translates as "Her Smile".
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Is "Behind the Door" from 1919 something that could even be considered? Or are there restrictions upon it?
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Sorry it's Smilin' Through, I realise I linked to just the video, not the page that accompagnies it. Try: http://europeanfilmgateway.eu/node/33/t ... ingual%3A1" target="_blankFrankFay wrote:Spiny Norman wrote:EYE have a Talmadge from the Desmet collection, most probably. It's on the European Film Gateway, for the Talmadge fans: http://www.europeanfilmgateway.eu/sites ... &width=600" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Dutch title translates as "Her Smile".
There are subtitles for it by the way. (I find the story itself simply ghastly to be honest.)
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Though I have NO patience with ghosts myself, I do love this song:Spiny Norman wrote:...(I find the story itself simply ghastly to be honest.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDZ_ucfyWQ" target="_blank" target="_blank
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Re: Possible LOC projects
I asked James Cozart about it long ago at Cinevent or somewhere, and he said the problem is that Moscow apparently has scenes not in the LOC print and so the hope was that someday, in some big trade to be negotiated over years no doubt, that would be included and a more complete version could be assembled.Is "Behind the Door" from 1919 something that could even be considered? Or are there restrictions upon it?
I have no idea if any of that has ever happened, but that's where it stood a decade ago or something. It would certainly be worth looking into.
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Re: Possible LOC projects
A few years back Cozart said that the trade looked promosing.Mike Gebert wrote:I asked James Cozart about it long ago at Cinevent or somewhere, and he said the problem is that Moscow apparently has scenes not in the LOC print and so the hope was that someday, in some big trade to be negotiated over years no doubt, that would be included and a more complete version could be assembled.Is "Behind the Door" from 1919 something that could even be considered? Or are there restrictions upon it?
I have no idea if any of that has ever happened, but that's where it stood a decade ago or something. It would certainly be worth looking into.
Problem with the LOC print is that it is no longer considered projectable and they aren't going to make another copy from the negative unless there is a pressing reason.
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Oh I meant ghastly, but you're quite right, it's ghostly too.entredeuxguerres wrote:Though I have NO patience with ghosts myself, I do love this song:Spiny Norman wrote:...(I find the story itself simply ghastly to be honest.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDZ_ucfyWQ" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
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Re: Possible LOC projects
This was Norma's biggest hit, and i think it's one of her best films. The Dutch version is the European print with different takes and sometimes slightly different camera angles than the LOC print, plus one brief scene not in the LOC print. Otherwise the editing is quite similar, so the two versions are pretty close. The LOC print has significant decomp in several places, so the dutch print is overall in better shape. The LOC print has some nice at titles, though.Spiny Norman wrote:Sorry it's Smilin' Through, I realise I linked to just the video, not the page that accompagnies it. Try: http://europeanfilmgateway.eu/node/33/t ... ingual%3A1" target="_blank" target="_blankFrankFay wrote:Spiny Norman wrote:EYE have a Talmadge from the Desmet collection, most probably. It's on the European Film Gateway, for the Talmadge fans: http://www.europeanfilmgateway.eu/sites ... &width=600" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Dutch title translates as "Her Smile".
There are subtitles for it by the way. (I find the story itself simply ghastly to be honest.)
So, it's suggest giving it a try. It was a popular enough story to have been remade twice with Norma Shearer and Jeannette MacDonald. I like both of those version as well, so apparently i don't mind ghosts.
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Re: Possible LOC projects
I'm hoping someone takes on the pursuit of one of these films. More information on any of the films on this list can be had by contacting LOC librarian Rosemary Hanes at [email protected]" target="_blank
She can tell you about donor restrictions and more specific information on the condition of the films I listed......
She can tell you about donor restrictions and more specific information on the condition of the films I listed......
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For the re-telling of this warhorse, last was best, owing mainly to Jeanette, but also because the ghosts were under strict orders to remain as inconspicuous as possible.greta de groat wrote:...It was a popular enough story to have been remade twice with Norma Shearer and Jeannette MacDonald. I like both of those version as well, so apparently i don't mind ghosts.
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Gave it a try I already did, but I found it sentimental claptrap.
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It's a picture, actually, I've always wanted to see...not for its excess of sentimentality, certainly not for its spectral nonsense, but for beautiful Norma's sake alone. But absolutely NOT without a premium-quality score! (Which must include that beautiful melody I previously mentioned.) I'm not holding my breath for this to happen.Spiny Norman wrote:Gave it a try I already did, but I found it sentimental claptrap.
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LIke scanning it for preservation/release?FrankFay wrote:A few years back Cozart said that the trade looked promosing.Mike Gebert wrote:I asked James Cozart about it long ago at Cinevent or somewhere, and he said the problem is that Moscow apparently has scenes not in the LOC print and so the hope was that someday, in some big trade to be negotiated over years no doubt, that would be included and a more complete version could be assembled.Is "Behind the Door" from 1919 something that could even be considered? Or are there restrictions upon it?
I have no idea if any of that has ever happened, but that's where it stood a decade ago or something. It would certainly be worth looking into.
Problem with the LOC print is that it is no longer considered projectable and they aren't going to make another copy from the negative unless there is a pressing reason.
Am very curious if there was ever any progress with the Russian archival material?
Re: Possible LOC projects
Dutch title translates as "Her Smile".
Sorry it's Smilin' Through, I realise I linked to just the video, not the page that accompagnies it. Try: http://europeanfilmgateway.eu/node/33/t ... ingual%3A1
There are subtitles for it by the way. (I find the story itself simply ghastly to be honest.)
The LOC print looks to be about 10 minutes longer than this Dutch print unless it's just a framerate difference. And Norma's version is Smiling Through.This was Norma's biggest hit, and i think it's one of her best films. The Dutch version is the European print with different takes and sometimes slightly different camera angles than the LOC print, plus one brief scene not in the LOC print. Otherwise the editing is quite similar, so the two versions are pretty close. The LOC print has significant decomp in several places, so the dutch print is overall in better shape. The LOC print has some nice at titles, though.
So, it's suggest giving it a try. It was a popular enough story to have been remade twice with Norma Shearer and Jeannette MacDonald. I like both of those version as well, so apparently i don't mind ghosts.
greta
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