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Help with Mystery Photo NOT Valentino

Unread post by rudyfan » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:06 pm

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I just won this as part of a lot of two photos. This is not a Valentino film. Anyone recognize this? Still code is -383

It might be a talkie, nothing on the back except a mis-identification that it's a Valentino film.
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Unread post by MaryGH » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:08 pm

I'm sorry, I have no idea, don't know if this matters, but I recently bid and won a lot of 3 film stills, same website as you, Tom Tyler, two mis-identified, weirdest part is one of the mis-identified ones has the correct film name on the back, "Wild to Go."

The good news is I was able to ID the other mystery film still.

Good luck with IDing your mystery film still.
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Re: Help with Mystery Photo NOT Valentino

Unread post by LouieD » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:34 pm

Anyway to see a closer image of the principals?

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Unread post by FrankFay » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:21 pm

LouieD wrote:Anyway to see a closer image of the principals?
Right click and open in new tab- the image becomes quite big
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Re: Help with Mystery Photo NOT Valentino

Unread post by Dean Thompson » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:09 pm

I don't recognize any of the presumed principals, but could this be a Vitaphone short from the late twenties? Maybe a scene from Carmen? Perhaps Ron will know--

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Unread post by FrankFay » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:00 pm

Dean Thompson wrote:I don't recognize any of the presumed principals, but could this be a Vitaphone short from the late twenties? Maybe a scene from Carmen? Perhaps Ron will know--
Alice Gentle was in a Scene from Carmen (1929) , and the woman in the middle looks a bit like her: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ephone.jpg" target="_blank
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Unread post by George O'Brien » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:28 am

Could it be Metropolitan Opera star Anna Case in the early Vitaphone short, sometimes played on TCM?
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Unread post by rudyfan » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:16 pm

LouieD wrote:Anyway to see a closer image of the principals?
Louie, yes, I will scan it now that I have the pic in hand. I will post a follow up later tonight.
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Unread post by FrankFay » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:34 pm

George O'Brien wrote:Could it be Metropolitan Opera star Anna Case in the early Vitaphone short, sometimes played on TCM?

No- Case wears a huge lace mantilla over a tall comb in that.
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Re: Help with Mystery Photo NOT Valentino

Unread post by LouieD » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:51 pm

rudyfan wrote:
LouieD wrote:Anyway to see a closer image of the principals?
Louie, yes, I will scan it now that I have the pic in hand. I will post a follow up later tonight.
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Unread post by rudyfan » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:35 pm

LouieD wrote:
rudyfan wrote:
LouieD wrote:Anyway to see a closer image of the principals?
Louie, yes, I will scan it now that I have the pic in hand. I will post a follow up later tonight.
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Here is a larger scan of the image. Have fun, I am coming up empty!

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Re: Help with Mystery Photo NOT Valentino

Unread post by silentfilm » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:55 pm

It looks like the last Nitrateville dinner at Cinecon to me! :lol:

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Unread post by George O'Brien » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:32 am

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I haven't seen the film since I was a kid, but could it be the operetta that Harpo dislikes intensely in THE COCONUTS (1929)?
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Re: Help with Mystery Photo NOT Valentino

Unread post by silentfilm » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:49 pm

The still code on this film is "383". Usually still codes have a two-part code. The first part indicates the production (title) and the second part indicates the numbered photo from the film.

Independent productions and small studios only used one number for their codes, because they didn't make a lot of films. They could look at the still and tell which production it was from.

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The production number for The Cocoanuts (1929) was 1192, so original photos from this film will have a code of "1192-" and then a number. For some reason stills from this film (The Cocoanuts) also have a code of "F5-" plus a number. This still is definitely not from that film.

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Re: Help with Mystery Photo NOT Valentino

Unread post by Brooksie » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:59 pm

Just a thought - it could be a glitch on the image, but it looks to me like there's a dash before that 383, almost as if it was a two part code where someone forgot to fill the first part in.

Another possibility is a non-American film. It does seem quite elaborate for an American independent film.

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