Guinn Williams' evil twin

greta de groat · Post by **greta de groat** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:43 pm

Has anyone else noticed that Guinn Williams looks like George Bush?

silentscreen · Post by **silentscreen** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:06 am

I think they're related.

misspickford9 · Post by **misspickford9** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:07 am

That is EERIE!

Post by **Mike Gebert** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:12 am

http://www.longpauses.com/blog/02_01_09b.jpg

silentscreen · Post by **silentscreen** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:46 am

Actually Guinn was in some pretty impressive movies in the twenties: City Girl, Lucky Star, and Noah's Ark. His career began to take a dive in the thirties, and he started playing cowboys who were big on muscle and not so smart. His father was a Texas politican who disapproved of his vocational choice. In reality he was fairly polished, but there are several similarites between him and George W.

Hal Erickson · Post by **Hal Erickson** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:53 am

He also cut off Orson Welles' necktie in the parking lot of a famous Hollywood restaurant.

According to Errol Flynn, Williams had an inexplicable hatred for Welles.
Flynn also claimed that Welles calmly invited Williams to duke it out, but
several people intervened for fear that "Big Boy" would murder the "Boy Genius."

--Hal E

silentscreen · Post by **silentscreen** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:33 am

I doubt that Williams disliked Welles for no reason. I can easily imagine Welles saying something so sarcastic as to tick someone off.

George O'Brien · Post by **George O'Brien** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:51 pm

They could be brothers.

But Big Boy exuded geniality; W, Little Boy", exudes arrogance.

Post by **Mike Gebert** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:22 am

No politics here, folks.

Especially last year's politics...

boblipton · Post by **boblipton** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:26 am

At least not directly-to-the-movie related. I would think that a thread on W or SWING VOTE might be acceptable if those movies weren't simply preaching-to-the-faithful.

Bob

Hal Erickson · Post by **Hal Erickson** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:18 am

I liked SWING VOTE a whole lot better when it starred John Barrymore and they called it THE GREAT MAN VOTES.

Barrymore drunk was still more talented than Costner sober.

--Hal E

boblipton · Post by **boblipton** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:25 am

I find THE GREAT MAN VOTES to be a sad, disturbing movie, mostly because of Barrymore's decline. Nor did I bother to see SWING VOTE because Kevin Costner, unless Ron Shelton is kicking him in the a** is the dullest leading man I have ever encountered.

Bob

Post by **Mike Gebert** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:27 am

I think that a thread on W would have a hard time staying on the right side of the line for very long.

I have a hard time with late Barrymore knowing what's actually decline, and what's him taking delight in seeming decrepit. Midnight being another example.

Richard M Roberts · Post by **Richard M Roberts** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:33 pm

Mike Gebert wrote:I think that a thread on W would have a hard time staying on the right side of the line for very long.

I have a hard time with late Barrymore knowing what's actually decline, and what's him taking delight in seeming decrepit. Midnight being another example.

Ah, so you have that magic ability to tell every second in Barrymore's performance where he's on and off do you Gebert? I think John Barrymore is great even in stuff like HOLD THAT COED because even when drunk as a skunk, he has more chops than the rest around him and great comedy timing to boot. I get so tired of those who go on and on about John Barrymore's tragic decline. The guy lived the way he wanted to live and went down his own wayward path to no ones fault but his own. Yeah sure, he played Hamlet once, but he had been a light comedian most of his life, and his decline was spent at places like Paramount and RKO, not PRC or Ed Wood Productions. Even horror of horrors, the Rudy Vallee show that Barrymore co-starred on in the end was one of the highest rated radio programs of the time. As declines go, there were a lot worse, and in that, I never saw Barrymore give a bad performance, even in PLAYMATES, he walks away with the whole show and it's an A picture to boot.

RICHARD M ROBERTS

Post by **Mike Gebert** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:40 pm

Ah, so you have that magic ability to tell every second in Barrymore's performance where he's on and off do you Gebert?

Uh... I think I said the exact opposite... though my real point is, I think he was goofing being hopelessly lost in an alcoholic fog more than the reality, a la Dean Martin.

Richard M Roberts · Post by **Richard M Roberts** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:51 pm

Mike Gebert wrote:
Ah, so you have that magic ability to tell every second in Barrymore's performance where he's on and off do you Gebert?
Uh... I think I said the exact opposite... though my real point is, I think he was goofing being hopelessly lost in an alcoholic fog more than the reality, a la Dean Martin.

I guess you did, it's a odd sentence, but I think neither Barrymore nor Martin are in an alcoholic fog any where near as much as you think. Both actors were pros who knew how to work their public images, if they were truly as out of it as some would like to believe, there's no way they could have or would have made as many pictures as they did, nor would the studios have hired them, especially the major studios.

RICHARD M ROBERTS

gjohnson · Post by **gjohnson** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:37 pm

Martin admitted as much in later life when he said there was no way one could perform three shows nightly on the Vegas stage with a drink in hand if that drink was any stronger than cold tea.

Gary J.

Richard M Roberts · Post by **Richard M Roberts** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:54 pm

gjohnson wrote:Martin admitted as much in later life when he said there was no way one could perform three shows nightly on the Vegas stage with a drink in hand if that drink was any stronger than cold tea.

Gary J.

And I think Barrymore was frequently feigning drunkeness to hide that fact that he was seriously ill and in a lot of pain, and this applies to W. C. Fields as well in his later years.

RICHARD M ROBERTS