Poll: What film/s, lost or not, do you most want to see?

Gagman 66 · Post by **Gagman 66** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:46 pm

Oh yes, THE LOTUS EATER. Colleen Moore is in this film too.

George O'Brien · Post by **George O'Brien** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:27 pm

Lubitsch's THE PATRIOT
Flemings's THE WAY OF ALL FLESH
John Ford's THANK YOU, THE FIGHTING HEART, and the sound version of MEN WITHOUT WOMEN

Almost forgot, because it actually does exist somewhere, I've been told - Lubitsch's ROSITA

drednm · Post by **drednm** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:33 pm

Does the talkie version of Sweethearts on Parade exist?

precode · Post by **precode** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:55 pm

No one's yet mentioned the missing Raymond Griffith titles, including WET PAINT, WEDDING BILLS and the final reel of PATHS TO PARADISE.

Mike S.

dr.giraud · Post by **dr.giraud** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:21 pm

precode wrote:No one's yet mentioned the missing Raymond Griffith titles, including WET PAINT, WEDDING BILLS and the final reel of PATHS TO PARADISE.

Mike S.

And TIME TO LOVE. I've got a very funny still with William Powell and Griffith staring menacingly at each other. The leading lady is between them, and they both have dueling pistols.

Griffith's is larger, of course.

And my number one lost film, Lubitsch's KISS ME AGAIN. I'd take that over THE PATRIOT any day.

dr.giraud · Post by **dr.giraud** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:22 pm

silentfilm wrote:
dr.giraud wrote:Since I like those 3-people-stuck-in-a-room dramas, I wish a good print of Tod Browning's WHITE TIGER would turn up.

Related: I would buy a Priscilla Dean box set.
So you don't like Grapevine's DVD-R version? I'm pretty sure that White Tiger only survives in 16mm.
http://www.grapevinevideo.com/white_tiger.htm

I thought I had Grapevine's VHS but I checked, and it's actually a crappy off-off-market tape. So I'll give the Grapevine DVD-R a try.

syd · Post by **syd** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:05 pm

Big Brother (1925)

This presumed lost Allan Dwan directed profile
of Irish hooligans and gangsters was greatly
lauded by James R. Quirk of Photoplay.

A chapter is devoted to it in Kevin Brownlow's
Behind the Mask of Innocence.

Johnny Get Your Hair Cut (1927)

This was shown at Cinecon a few years ago, so I presume
it still survives.

A Jackie Coogan vehicle with Harry Carey.

It is reviewed on the imdb by F. Gwynplaine MacIntyre.
He might have actually seen the movie.

flicker man · Post by **flicker man** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:36 am

dr.giraud wrote:
silentfilm wrote:
dr.giraud wrote:Since I like those 3-people-stuck-in-a-room dramas, I wish a good print of Tod Browning's WHITE TIGER would turn up.

Related: I would buy a Priscilla Dean box set.
So you don't like Grapevine's DVD-R version? I'm pretty sure that White Tiger only survives in 16mm.
http://www.grapevinevideo.com/white_tiger.htm

I thought I had Grapevine's VHS but I checked, and it's actually a crappy off-off-market tape. So I'll give the Grapevine DVD-R a try.

I have a 16mm print of this. It's a dupe (ain't they all), but a decent one, bought from Bob Cline decades ago. I should get the DVD-R to see how it compares.

StefanieTieste · Post by **StefanieTieste** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:39 am

Having seen the fragment of "Marizza, genannt die Schmugglermadonna" by Murnau in Pordenone, I'm really hooked. I want to see the entire film, so please would somebody find the missing reels?!

Penfold · Post by **Penfold** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:43 am

George Pearson's Reveille (1923)....the clip in a sixties documentary is tantalising; it looks fantastic, and it's out there somewhere - or was until relatively recently.
http://www.bfi.org.uk/nationalarchive/n ... eille.html

Gagman 66 · Post by **Gagman 66** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:23 pm

For some reason I failed to mention LEGION OF THE CONDEMNED. Seems this was a breakout picture for Gary Cooper, with Fay Wray, and most reviewers of the day apparently preferred the film to WINGS. Sure hope that people have actually been looking for it. Allot of Silents are listed as "Status Unknown", because no one has really checked up on them yet.

I haven't seen THE DEVIL'S CLAIM (1920) either. at least I know that one is around somewhere. If not on DVD.

Eric Grayson · Post by **Eric Grayson** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:09 am

I have Bill Everson's old Show-At-Home of White Tiger.

sepiatone · Post by **sepiatone** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:35 pm

some additions to the list:

HEARTS ADRIFT (1914-st. Mary Pickford, Harold Lockwood; dir. Edwin S. Porter)

A GIRL OF YESTERDAY(1915-st. Mary Pickford, Frances Marion, Glenn Martin; dir. Allan Dwan)

THE RED LANTERN(1919-st. Alla Nazimova ; dir. Albert Capellani)

WHILE NEW YORK SLEEPS(1920-st. Estelle Taylor, Marc McDermott; dir. Charles Brabin)

DANTE'S INFERNO(1924-st. Pauline Starke; dir. Henry Otto)

STARK LOVE (1927-st. Helen Mundy, Forrest James; dir. Karl Brown)

Post by **silentfilm** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:49 pm

While New York Sleeps (1920) still exists. It was shown at Cinecon in 2007. It was an interesting film with three different crime stories all featuring the same cast, but with different parts in each story. It was a 16mm print from the MOMA in New York, but an old Jon Mirsalis post says that it exists in 35mm at UCLA.

WHILE NEW YORK SLEEPS (1920) [****] While this was shown in a soft 16mm print, it was my favorite silent film of the weekend. It consists of three stories of crime in New York City featuring the same actors in different roles each time. After seeing plenty of frothy movies this weekend about rich people with fancy clothes with butlers and maids, it was nice to see some gritty stories about working class people. And the criminals weren't just greedy in these films, they were downright shifty and clever. Since it is an early (1920) feature with a lot of violence, the acting is not as naturalistic as it would be later in the 1920s. All three stories were O'Henry-type stories with a twist at the end.

In the first story, Estelle Taylor's husband leaves her and the baby at home when called in late to work. A bum sneaks into her house, but he's not any old burglar. He's her deceased convict first husband, who wasn't really killed in a train wreck. While he is threatening her, another burglar sneaks in, expecting to break into the safe. In the commotion, one of the characters is killed, and the other two make an interesting pact.

In the second story, a rich man (Marc McDermott) meets a fancy lady (Taylor again) at the Ziegfeld Follies. They see each other for a while, until she discovers that the man is married. She begs the man to get a divorce and marry her, but he refuses. She kills herself with a gun. McDermott is distraught, and a man comes into the scene and is really upset because he is Taylor's husband. The story has a couple of surprising twists, but I won't give away the amusing ending.

In the final, longest story, Estelle Taylor is an orphaned woman who loses her job at a sewing sweatshop. Her other job is to take care of a quadriplegic man (McDermott again). The man's son loves her, and she marries him just to have someone support her. An organized gang pulls a silk theft at the docks where Taylor's husband is the guard. He is able to free himself enough to call the police. The police catch all but one of the crooks, who swims away and makes it to Taylor's and McDermott's apartment. Taylor is attracted to the criminal, and she nurses him back to health in the attic of the apartment. A couple of weeks later, Taylor's husband catches her talking to the criminal, precipitating a violent ending. The "hook" of the story is that McDermott's character sees everything, but cannot speak or move. The only way that he can communicate with his son or the police is to move and blink his eyes. The last two stories were very suspenseful (especially with the fine score by Phil Carli), and this is a must-see for silent film fans.

Gagman 66 · Post by **Gagman 66** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:07 pm

Sepiatone,

Since STARK LOVE has been added to the National Film Registry, one would think that we might get a chance to see it sometime.

Darren Nemeth · Post by **Darren Nemeth** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:44 pm

Gagman 66 wrote:Sepiatone,

Since STARK LOVE has been added to the National Film Registry, one would think that we might get a chance to see it sometime.

I seem to remember a while back there was an announcement for an upcoming release on DVD(??) Must have been before the recession.

Post by **Danny Burk** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:56 pm

Darren Nemeth wrote:
Gagman 66 wrote:Sepiatone,

Since STARK LOVE has been added to the National Film Registry, one would think that we might get a chance to see it sometime.
I seem to remember a while back there was an announcement for an upcoming release on DVD(??) Must have been before the recession.

It's Paramount and it's not PD, so probably not (I don't remember anything about it), although it seems like something that might turn up in one of the "Treasures of American Archives" sets someday. It's been shown on TV (a long time ago as part of the "Lost and Found" series in NYC in the late '70s) and there are actually copies from that broadcast floating around.

Rodney · Post by **Rodney** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:51 pm

Danny Burk wrote:
Darren Nemeth wrote:
Gagman 66 wrote:Sepiatone,

Since STARK LOVE has been added to the National Film Registry, one would think that we might get a chance to see it sometime.
I seem to remember a while back there was an announcement for an upcoming release on DVD(??) Must have been before the recession.
It's Paramount and it's not PD, so probably not (I don't remember anything about it), although it seems like something that might turn up in one of the "Treasures of American Archives" sets someday. It's been shown on TV (a long time ago as part of the "Lost and Found" series in NYC in the late '70s) and there are actually copies from that broadcast floating around.

Certainly it's been shown a few times around the country in the past few years. At least one of the screenings was in or near the place it was filmed.

Darren Nemeth · Post by **Darren Nemeth** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:14 pm

Rodney wrote: Certainly it's been shown a few times around the country in the past few years. At least one of the screenings was in or near the place it was filmed.

It was shown here in Saginaw years back with family members of one of the "actresses" in attendance.

An excellent movie.