Parallels in Keaton's Hard Luck & A&C's In Society

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Parallels in Keaton's Hard Luck & A&C's In Society

Post by Little Caesar » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:55 pm

Several years ago, I watched Abbott and Costello's "In Society" and found myself thinking that the fox hunt scene in the movie seemed awfully familiar. After thinking about it for a few minutes, I remembered the fox hunt scene from Buster Keaton's Hard Luck. I wondered for a few moments if Buster had perhaps done a little moonlighting at Universal for this film. Anyway, as I was watching Hard Luck earlier today on my new Keaton blu-ray set, I remembered this observation from a few years ago. After finishing the short, I got my DVD copy of In Society out and compared the two fox hunt scenes. While the two scenes are not carbon copies, there are enough similarities between the two to make me suspicious that Keaton was possibly involved (or perhaps the same gag writers). I made a few screen shots for comparison (I apologize for the low resolution. I'm sort of a luddite when it comes to the computers. Also, I don't have the capabilities to take screen shots from blu rays. Hence, the images from Hard Luck are taken from the Keaton Plus DVD version).

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Buster is getting ready for the fox hunt and has his unique assortment of dogs ready by his side.

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Lou has his dogs ready for the hunt too (there wasn't a clear shot of Lou with the dogs in the film).

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Buster is out looking for that fox and little does he suspect that the fox is right behind him (I highlighted the fox since he was difficult to make out in the screen shot).

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Lou (or his body double) seems to have the same trouble that Buster had two decades earlier.

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Not being able to go under the bridge while on horseback, Buster jumps on the bridge and gets back on the horse once the horse emerges from under the bridge.

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Lou finds himself in a similar situation.

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Buster tries to do the same stunt with another bridge only to find himself on a bull.

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Lou finds similar results when he tries that stunt again too.

The lasso gag in the films is somewhat similar too. Keaton tries to lasso his horse, but he lassos a bear instead. Lou tries to lasso the fox but lassos a donkey instead.
According to the imdb, In Society was released by Universal in August of 1944. One month later, Universal released San Diego, I Love You. This may be pertinent because Buster has a supporting role in the latter movie. If the two movies were in production at the same time, the plausibility of Buster's participation in the A&C movie increases since he would have been physically present on the Universal lot at the time of the filming. I took a brief look through a few of my Keaton books that list some of the movies he was a gag consultant on and couldn't find any reference to this. Do any of you have any opinions on this?
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Re: Parallels in Keaton's Hard Luck & A&C's In Society

Post by Jack Theakston » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:48 am

Fascinating! Thanks for posting this. Eddie Cline wrote HARD LUCK and was on the Universal lot at the same time as IN SOCIETY, but he's not credited—perhaps there is his influence on the film?
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Post by bobfells » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:29 am

Another suspect would be Clyde Bruckman who provided the screenplay for Universal's SHE GETS HER MAN (1945) with Joan Davis. So he was employed at the studio around the same time IN SOCIETY was in production. Bruckman apparently wasn't involved in HARD LUCK but undoubtedly had seen it. He lifted gags from MOVIE CRAZY for the Davis film and Harold Lloyd successfully sued Bruckman for it.
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Re: Parallels in Keaton's Hard Luck & A&C's In Society

Post by Kevin2 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:34 am

It is fascinating. In Society borrows quite bit from other comedies, so why not a Keaton, too. Clyde Bruckman is listed as an uncredited contributor to the In Society screenplay in the book Abbott and Costello in Hollywood.

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Post by Little Caesar » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:14 pm

I had considered Clyde Bruckman to be the source of the similarities given his history of recycling gags from other films. The fact that he did do uncredited work on In Society is very intriguing. Eddie Cline didn't come to mind, but his case is strong too. I guess we'll never know ultimately how these similarities came about since the three most likely suspects (Buster, Cline, and Bruckman) were all working at Universal at roughly the same time.
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Post by bobfells » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:43 pm

One thing we know for sure - Abbott & Costello didn't think it up. Like the Marx Bros., they seem to rely entirely on others for their material.
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