NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

NitrateVille-related crowdfunding projects for film and DVD releases, etc.
User avatar
drednm
Posts: 7593
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm
Location: Belgrade Lakes, ME

NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by drednm » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:35 am

Viola Dana stars in this film by John H. Collins.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/10 ... ject_build
Ed Lorusso
Writer/Historian
-------------
https://wordpress.com/view/silentroomdo ... dpress.com" target="_blank

User avatar
boblipton
Posts: 6269
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:01 pm
Location: Clement Clarke Moore's Farm

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by boblipton » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:42 am

That’s what I get for checking to see if I’ve already seen this, when I was going to buy a copy anyway. I’m the second.

Bob
Life's too short to sit on our rears watching other people's work.
— Bob Fells

User avatar
drednm
Posts: 7593
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm
Location: Belgrade Lakes, ME

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by drednm » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:45 am

I don't think this has been shown anywhere since 1916 but I could be wrong.
Ed Lorusso
Writer/Historian
-------------
https://wordpress.com/view/silentroomdo ... dpress.com" target="_blank

User avatar
Mike Gebert
Site Admin
Posts: 6135
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:23 pm
Location: Chicago
Contact:

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by Mike Gebert » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:29 am

I saw it at Cinesation some years back. It's good! And I'm in.
“I'm in favor of plagiarism. If we are to create a new Renaissance, the government should encourage plagiarism. When convinced that someone is a true plagiarist, we should immediately award them the Legion of Honor.” —Jean Renoir

User avatar
Hamilton's Grandson
Posts: 397
Joined: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:56 pm
Location: Tacoma,WA

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by Hamilton's Grandson » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:53 am

I am in also.

Thanks,
Dana
Mark Hamilton (I) is on imdb.com
Joseph Hamilton (I) is on imdb.com
Gertrude Brooke Hamilton is on imdb.com

User avatar
silentfilm
Moderator
Posts: 9430
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:31 pm
Location: Dallas, TX USA
Contact:

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by silentfilm » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:08 am

boblipton wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:42 am
That’s what I get for checking to see if I’ve already seen this, when I was going to buy a copy anyway. I’m the second.

Bob
Maybe next time, Bob... :D

User avatar
Danny Burk
Moderator
Posts: 1734
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:11 pm
Location: South Bend, IN
Contact:

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by Danny Burk » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:00 pm

I think I was #33.....moving quickly...

User avatar
CoffeeDan
Posts: 948
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:55 pm
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Contact:

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by CoffeeDan » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:11 pm

I think I was just ahead of you, Danny, at #31 or 32. No hesitation on this one!

For those of you on the fence, Fritzi Kramer reviewed THE COSSACK WHIP on her Movies Silently blog two years ago, and you can read her take on it here.

User avatar
drednm
Posts: 7593
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm
Location: Belgrade Lakes, ME

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by drednm » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:37 pm

Here's a screen cap

Image
Ed Lorusso
Writer/Historian
-------------
https://wordpress.com/view/silentroomdo ... dpress.com" target="_blank

User avatar
Mitch Farish
Posts: 735
Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:30 am
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Contact:

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by Mitch Farish » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:09 pm

I'm in!

User avatar
boblipton
Posts: 6269
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:01 pm
Location: Clement Clarke Moore's Farm

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by boblipton » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:17 pm

A couple of Nitrateville threads in which director John H. Collns has been discussed are:

Pordenone 2016 Festival Review is up at
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24834&p=193335&hili ... ns#p193335

and John H. Collins - Wow! at
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22975&p=185969&hili ... ns#p185969

Bob
Life's too short to sit on our rears watching other people's work.
— Bob Fells

User avatar
drednm
Posts: 7593
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm
Location: Belgrade Lakes, ME

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by drednm » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:08 pm

More than half way there!
Ed Lorusso
Writer/Historian
-------------
https://wordpress.com/view/silentroomdo ... dpress.com" target="_blank

User avatar
rudyfan
Posts: 1848
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:48 am
Location: San Fwancisco
Contact:

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by rudyfan » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:27 pm

Yeah, I'm in Ed. Good choice!
http://www.rudolph-valentino.com" target="_blank" target="_blank
http://nitanaldi.com" target="_blank" target="_blank
http://www.dorothy-gish.com" target="_blank" target="_blank

User avatar
Rick Lanham
Posts: 2039
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:16 pm
Location: Gainesville, FL

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by Rick Lanham » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:28 pm

Viola, Cossacks, and Whips! Oh My! :lol:

In.

Rick
“The past is never dead. It's not even past” - Faulkner.

Battra92
Posts: 395
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:02 pm
Location: Massachusetts

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by Battra92 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:29 am

I had a busy weekend, Ed so my pledge came in a bit late at backer 89.

My only complaint is that I haven't watched your last one, yet. :)

User avatar
Jim Roots
Posts: 2911
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:45 pm
Location: Ottawa, ON

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by Jim Roots » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:54 pm

Battra92 wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:29 am
I had a busy weekend, Ed so my pledge came in a bit late at backer 89.

My only complaint is that I haven't watched your last one, yet. :)
I'm in, and my only complaint is that I haven't received your last one yet!

Jim

User avatar
drednm
Posts: 7593
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm
Location: Belgrade Lakes, ME

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by drednm » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:04 pm

Jim Roots wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:54 pm
Battra92 wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:29 am
I had a busy weekend, Ed so my pledge came in a bit late at backer 89.

My only complaint is that I haven't watched your last one, yet. :)
I'm in, and my only complaint is that I haven't received your last one yet!

Jim
Let me double check.....

Yup, I missed you, Jim. Sorry about that. It mails out tomorrow.
Ed Lorusso
Writer/Historian
-------------
https://wordpress.com/view/silentroomdo ... dpress.com" target="_blank

User avatar
drednm
Posts: 7593
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm
Location: Belgrade Lakes, ME

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by drednm » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:20 am

FUNDED!

Going through the film, it looks like a zoom lens was used in a few places. They had zoom lenses in 1916?
Ed Lorusso
Writer/Historian
-------------
https://wordpress.com/view/silentroomdo ... dpress.com" target="_blank

User avatar
boblipton
Posts: 6269
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:01 pm
Location: Clement Clarke Moore's Farm

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by boblipton » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:13 pm

According to Wikipedia, Bell and Howell started producing Commercial zoom lenses in 1932. I have no doubt a good cameraman could have made one earlier. Perhaps the effect could be achieved by a fast tracking or dolly shot combined with under ranking and a leisurely paced mode of acting by the players. Looking forward to seeing the effect myself.

Bob
Life's too short to sit on our rears watching other people's work.
— Bob Fells

User avatar
Mike Gebert
Site Admin
Posts: 6135
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:23 pm
Location: Chicago
Contact:

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by Mike Gebert » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:21 pm

By the way, the goal has been reached!
“I'm in favor of plagiarism. If we are to create a new Renaissance, the government should encourage plagiarism. When convinced that someone is a true plagiarist, we should immediately award them the Legion of Honor.” —Jean Renoir

User avatar
drednm
Posts: 7593
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm
Location: Belgrade Lakes, ME

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by drednm » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:25 pm

boblipton wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:13 pm
According to Wikipedia, Bell and Howell started producing Commercial zoom lenses in 1932. I have no doubt a good cameraman could have made one earlier. Perhaps the effect could be achieved by a fast tracking or dolly shot combined with under ranking and a leisurely paced mode of acting by the players. Looking forward to seeing the effect myself.

Bob
That's probably it, but it's such a smooth shot. Maybe I wasn't watching closely enough, but it struck me there was no detectable movement at all.....
Ed Lorusso
Writer/Historian
-------------
https://wordpress.com/view/silentroomdo ... dpress.com" target="_blank

User avatar
Dean Thompson
Posts: 184
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:21 am
Location: Way Down South

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by Dean Thompson » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:28 pm

I'm in and am already rubbing my mitts with gleeful anticipation.

Ed, I'm almost certain I pledged for Dinty but haven't received a copy yet. As long as you're double-checking Jim's order, might you check mine as well? Thanks.

User avatar
boblipton
Posts: 6269
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:01 pm
Location: Clement Clarke Moore's Farm

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by boblipton » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm

drednm wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:25 pm
boblipton wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:13 pm
According to Wikipedia, Bell and Howell started producing Commercial zoom lenses in 1932. I have no doubt a good cameraman could have made one earlier. Perhaps the effect could be achieved by a fast tracking or dolly shot combined with under ranking and a leisurely paced mode of acting by the players. Looking forward to seeing the effect myself.

Bob
That's probably it, but it's such a smooth shot. Maybe I wasn't watching closely enough, but it struck me there was no detectable movement at all.....
Well, a great cameraman can produce miracles. Think of the shot where Fauntleroy and Dearest touch.

Bob
Life's too short to sit on our rears watching other people's work.
— Bob Fells

User avatar
boblipton
Posts: 6269
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:01 pm
Location: Clement Clarke Moore's Farm

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by boblipton » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:36 pm

boblipton wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:32 pm
drednm wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:25 pm
boblipton wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:13 pm
According to Wikipedia, Bell and Howell started producing Commercial zoom lenses in 1932. I have no doubt a good cameraman could have made one earlier. Perhaps the effect could be achieved by a fast tracking or dolly shot combined with under ranking and a leisurely paced mode of acting by the players. Looking forward to seeing the effect myself.

Bob
That's probably it, but it's such a smooth shot. Maybe I wasn't watching closely enough, but it struck me there was no detectable movement at all.....
Well, a great cameraman can produce miracles. Think of the shot where Fauntleroy and Dearest touch.

Bob
When Melies built his studio before the turn of the century, he built in a track to achieve such effects.

Bob
Life's too short to sit on our rears watching other people's work.
— Bob Fells

User avatar
boblipton
Posts: 6269
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:01 pm
Location: Clement Clarke Moore's Farm

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by boblipton » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:56 pm

I see the folks at Kickstarter have ranked this a “Project We Love”, as they have others of Ed’s in the past. Doesn’t mean a thing practically, but it’s nice, now that the contributors have topped a hundred.

How many before Usanians get a case, Ed?

Bob
Life's too short to sit on our rears watching other people's work.
— Bob Fells

User avatar
drednm
Posts: 7593
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm
Location: Belgrade Lakes, ME

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by drednm » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:12 pm

boblipton wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:56 pm
I see the folks at Kickstarter have ranked this a “Project We Love”, as they have others of Ed’s in the past. Doesn’t mean a thing practically, but it’s nice, now that the contributors have topped a hundred.

How many before Usanians get a case, Ed?

Bob
The postage is about $15 last time I looked. I can always provide a PDF of the cover art, so it's a lot cheaper for people to put this together on their end. Plus I'm not sure a DVD case would make it across the waves. without special (different from what I use) packaging.
Ed Lorusso
Writer/Historian
-------------
https://wordpress.com/view/silentroomdo ... dpress.com" target="_blank

silents_are_golden
Posts: 3
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:52 pm

Re: NEW KICKSTARTER: THE COSSACK WHIP (1916)

Unread post by silents_are_golden » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:34 pm

Hi Ed,
Just saw your campaign and am a real Johnny come lately at Pledge no 125. Great to see you're up to Restoration no 11.

Best wishes

Tom

Post Reply