Man with John Gilbert in this photo?

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Man with John Gilbert in this photo?

Post by sepiatone » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:05 am

Does anyone know who he is, or is he significant, or just a person posing with Jack?
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2260/1 ... 918224.jpg" target="_blank

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Post by stairstars » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:53 am

It's Peter Lorre.

My guess is 1935 just as Lorre arrived in the US and at Columbia. Gilbert had already completed his last picture there (released Nov.'34) but would not do another before dying in Jan of '36. Short lived friendship at best.

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Post by sepiatone » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:09 pm

how can you tell. It doesn't look like Pete. If it is , you're really sharp. :)

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Post by momsne » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:16 pm

http://tsutpen.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html" target="_blank" target="_blank

The link above goes to a site that confirms Lorre's co-starring role in the publicity photo.

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Post by stairstars » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:25 pm

Some very marvelous images on that page - thanks.

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Post by missdupont » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:23 pm

It is a young Peter Lorre.

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Post by sepiatone » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:45 pm

momsne wrote:http://tsutpen.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html" target="_blank" target="_blank

The link above goes to a site that confirms Lorre's co-starring role in the publicity photo.
Momsne, you're the Miss Marple of Nitrateville. This is where I got the pic from so I guess the photo is reciprocative between several links or people just uploading from the same source. Lotsa great stuff too.
http://silverscreenoasis.com/oasis3/vie ... 0&start=75" target="_blank" target="_blank

it can be found on TCM as well
http://fan.tcm.com/_John-Gilbert-38-Pet ... ssive=true" target="_blank" target="_blank

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Post by entredeuxguerres » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:09 pm

sepiatone wrote:how can you tell. It doesn't look like Pete.
Not much, for sure. The clothes, the posture, something, make him look like a chubby, heavy-set gent--the antithesis of Mr. Moto.

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Post by precode » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:12 pm

stairstars wrote:It's Peter Lorre.

My guess is 1935 just as Lorre arrived in the US and at Columbia. Gilbert had already completed his last picture there (released Nov.'34) but would not do another before dying in Jan of '36. Short lived friendship at best.
The pedant in me feels compelled to note that while CAPTAIN HATES THE SEA was indeed Gilbert's last feature, he did appear as himself in one of those Louis Lewyn Technicolor shorts from the 1935-36 season. Can't remember which one, and it's not listed on the IMDb, but he's definitely in it and identified as such by the narrator.

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Post by Mitch Farish » Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:01 pm

entredeuxguerres wrote:Not much, for sure. The clothes, the posture, something, make him look like a chubby, heavy-set gent--the antithesis of Mr. Moto.
Lorre was pretty chunky in M and in his American debut, Mad Love. Mad Love was released by MGM in 1935, which makes his appearance with Gilbert even more plausible.

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Post by stairstars » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:38 pm

Yes, and he was a snappy dresser, too.

Not sure LB would just let him on the MGM lot to pal around with the new help, which is why I think they might have met at Columbia. Possibly, Gilbert was hoping for more work or there were even discussions. Just speculation, of course.

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Post by FrankFay » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:02 pm

Here he is in a 1931 comedy, only a few years earlier.





If I recall correctly, Lorre only lost weight because he got very sick, and the studios had to work hard to keep him thin.
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