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Post by drednm » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:44 pm

While reading several critics wonder by Carol didn't get a best film nomination, I went back and reviewed Oscar's seeming male/female bias.

In 87 previous awards, 55 best actress winners also had their film nominated for best film and only 10 also won best film.
In 87 previous awards, 68 best actor winners also had their film nominated for best film and 24 of those won best film.

The last best actress/best film combo was Hilary Swank for Million Dollar Baby. Three best actress/best film combos also included a best actor win.
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Post by maliejandra » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:15 am

Here is the list:
  • BEST PICTURE
    The Big Short
    Bridge of Spies
    Brooklyn
    Mad Max: Fury Road
    The Martian
    The Revenant
    Room
    Spotlight

    BEST ACTOR
    Bryan Cranston, Trumbo
    Matt Damon, The Martian
    Leonardo DiCaprio, The Revenant
    Michael Fassbender, Steve Jobs
    Eddie Redmayne, The Danish Girl

    BEST ACTRESS
    Cate Blanchett, Carol
    Brie Larson, Room
    Jennifer Lawrence, Joy
    Charlotte Rampling, 45 Years
    Saoirse Ronan, Brooklyn

    BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
    Christian Bale, The Big Short
    Tom Hardy, The Revenant
    Mark Ruffalo, Spotlight
    Mark Rylance, Bridge of Spies
    Sylvester Stallone, Creed

    BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
    Jennifer Jason Leigh, The Hateful Eight
    Rooney Mara, Carol
    Rachel McAdams, Spotlight
    Alicia Vikander, The Danish Girl
    Kate Winslet, Steve Jobs

    DIRECTING
    Adam McKay - The Big Short
    George Miller - Mad Max: Fury Road
    Alejandro G. Iñárritu - The Revenant
    Lenny Abrahamson - Room
    Tom McCarthy - Spotlight

    ANIMATED FEATURE FILM
    Anomalisa
    Boy and the World
    Inside Out
    Shaun the Sheep Movie
    When Marnie Was There

    COSTUME DESIGN
    Carol
    Cinderella
    The Danish Girl
    Mad Max: Fury Road
    The Revenant

    DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
    Amy
    Cartel Land
    The Look of Silence
    What Happened, Miss Simone?
    Winter on Fire

    DOCUMENTARY SHORT
    Body Team
    Chau, Beyond the Lines
    Claude Lanzmann
    A Girl in the River: The Price of Forgiveness
    Last Day of Freedom

    MAKEUP AND HAIR STYLING
    Mad Max: Fury Road
    The Hundred-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window and Disappeared
    The Revenant

    ORIGINAL SONG
    "Earned It" - Fifty Shades of Grey
    "Manta Ray" - Racing Extinction
    "Simple Song #3" - Youth
    "Til It Happens to You" - The Hunting Ground
    "Writing's on the Wall" - Spectre

    ANIMATED SHORT
    Bear Story
    Prologue
    Sanjay's Super Team
    We Can't Live Without Cosmos
    World of Tomorrow

    SOUND EDITING
    Mad Max: Fury Road
    Sicario
    Star Wars: The Force Awakens
    The Martian
    The Revenant

    FILM EDITING
    The Big Short
    Mad Max: Fury Road
    The Revenant
    Spotlight
    Star Wars: The Force Awakens

    FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
    Embrace of the Serpent
    Mustang
    Son of Saul
    Theeb
    A War

    ORIGINAL SCORE
    Bridge of Spies
    Carol
    The Hateful Eight
    Sicario
    Star Wars: The Force Awakens

    PRODUCTION DESIGN
    Bridge of Spies
    The Danish Girl
    Mad Max: Fury Road
    The Martian
    The Revenant

    VISUAL EFFECTS
    Ex Machina
    Mad Max: Fury Road
    The Martian
    The Revenant
    Star Wars: The Force Awakens

    ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
    The Big Short
    Brooklyn
    Carol
    The Martian
    Room

    ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
    Bridge of Spies
    Ex Machina
    Inside Out
    Spotlight
    Straight Outta Compton

    BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
    Carol
    The Hateful Eight
    Mad Max: Fury Road
    The Revenant
    Sicario
I have seen some of the films and intend to see a few more before the awards. It is always fun to have a dog in the race. I know What Happened Miss Simone? is on Netflix so I'll probably catch that there, and some of these films are on DVD already and I will check my local library. I was shocked to see The Martian up for Best Picture because while I enjoyed it enormously, I didn't think of it as anything more than a fun blockbuster movie. I saw Brooklyn and see its artistic merits, but it also didn't resonate with me emotionally the way I expect a best picture winner to.

Although I have not seen them yet, when I saw the previews for The Revenant and The Danish Girl I thought they were surefire Oscar bait.
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Re: Oscar noms

Post by Spider » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:49 am

maliejandra wrote:I was shocked to see The Martian up for Best Picture because while I enjoyed it enormously, I didn't think of it as anything more than a fun blockbuster movie.
Same here. It seems like a strange choice for a Best Picture nomination.

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Post by s.w.a.c. » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:16 pm

Bridge of Spies was OK, but not great Spielberg. Certainly a damn sight better than Warhorse, and less lugubrious than Lincoln. He does pile it on a bit thick towards the end though. Mark Rylance is the best thing in the film though, deserving of his supporting actor nomination.

I'd like to see Charlotte Rampling get some recognition, haven't seen 45 Years yet, but the trailer had me intrigued. Was just looking at the trailer for Stardust Memories and thinking how wonderful she was in that film. But they haven't been much for giving out "nostalgia" awards lately, so it seems unlikely. Saoirse Ronan was lovely in Brooklyn, she really knows how to work a close-up, in a "they had faces then" kind of way.
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Post by drednm » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:32 pm

s.w.a.c. wrote:Bridge of Spies was OK, but not great Spielberg. Certainly a damn sight better than Warhorse, and less lugubrious than Lincoln. He does pile it on a bit thick towards the end though. Mark Rylance is the best thing in the film though, deserving of his supporting actor nomination.

I'd like to see Charlotte Rampling get some recognition, haven't seen 45 Years yet, but the trailer had me intrigued. Was just looking at the trailer for Stardust Memories and thinking how wonderful she was in that film. But they haven't been much for giving out "nostalgia" awards lately, so it seems unlikely. Saoirse Ronan was lovely in Brooklyn, she really knows how to work a close-up, in a "they had faces then" kind of way.
Rampling would be a great choice but she has never had the "rep" like a Redgrave, Dench, or Mirren and spent a lot of her time in Euro films so she's not all that well known in this country. She was certainly Oscar worthy in The Verdict with Paul Newman. I was still hoping Blythe Danner would get some recognition for I'll See You in My Dreams in which she was wonderful. Oh well.
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Re: Oscar noms

Post by Donald Binks » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:18 pm

Here are my selections - probably based on a selection method not too far removed from that of the Academy.

BEST PICTURE

'Bridge of Spies'


This was a long picture but I was riveted to it from beginning to end. It had all those ingredients that are usually missing in modern pictures - such as good acting, directing, cinematography and script. I would give an honourable mention to "Brooklyn" but there just didn't seem to be something right with that girl.

BEST ACTOR

Leonardo DiCaprio, "The Revenant"

Only because he is due for one. He has made many performances that should have qualified him to win an Oscar. (I won't actually see this current film of his as it sounds too gruesome for my taste).

BEST ACTRESS

Charlotte Rampling, "45 Years".

Like DiCaprio she has put in some sterling performances over the years and is due for some big recognition.


BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR

Mark Rylance, "Bridge of Spies"


BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS

I can't include in this category as I have not seen the films mentioned (or more likely, want to see them).

DIRECTING

Can't say I am altogether pleased with the bunch up for grabs this year so I think it will be a toss between these two:-

George Miller - "Mad Max: Fury Road"
Alejandro G. Iñárritu - "The Revenant"

Neither picture appeals to me sufficient to pay good money to see - so I am only going on the hype.
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Post by boblipton » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:30 pm

I expect every Nitratevillain to talk up the silent movie nominated for an Oscar this year: the Shaun the Sheep Movie.

For best director, I'd go with Adam McKay for The Big Short for the imaginative way he explains abstruse technical financial terms: he sticks Margot Robbie in a bubble bath and has her tell the audience.

Finally, for best movie, I like The Martian. I love movies in which competent people do things well. However, since it involves doing and showing people that technology, good will, hard work and brains will get things done, Hollywood will probably go with a dark fantasy like Room, or demonstrate their high moral standing as being against forcing children to have sex with Catholic priests, Spotlight.

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Post by Brooksie » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:38 pm

s.w.a.c. wrote:Bridge of Spies was OK, but not great Spielberg. Certainly a damn sight better than Warhorse, and less lugubrious than Lincoln.
I liked Bridge of Spies, but it's a perfect example of a film that should have ended about twenty minutes before it did.

(Spoilers ahead)

The place to end it would have been straight after the prisoner swap. Everything after it would have been far better off left to the imagination of the viewer.

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Post by drednm » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:44 pm

Brooksie wrote:
s.w.a.c. wrote:Bridge of Spies was OK, but not great Spielberg. Certainly a damn sight better than Warhorse, and less lugubrious than Lincoln.
I liked Bridge of Spies, but it's a perfect example of a film that should have ended about twenty minutes before it did.

(Spoilers ahead)

The place to end it would have been straight after the prisoner swap. Everything after it would have been far better off left to the imagination of the viewer.
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The bane of most films of the last 20-30 years: TOO LONG
Never a truer word said!
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Donald Binks wrote:
The bane of most films of the last 20-30 years: TOO LONG
Never a truer word said!
One of the reasons I love early '30s productions, few of which exceed about 80 min, with many well under that length.

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Post by Mike Gebert » Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:52 pm

I liked Bridge of Spies and wish there were more movies about the Cold War (what there ought to have been is an all-star movie about the Berlin Airlift with Burt Lancaster, Frank Sinatra, Elke Sommer, Oscar Homolka etc.*) but watching Tom Hanks (SPOILER) simply hold out like a stick in the mud till he got everybody back was somewhat underexciting, like watching a guy painstakingly get his luggage back from the airline. The best thing was Rylance, a wonderful actor whose alien stillness is riveting.

* They'd never do it now because it would violate the rule that America is always the same as the other guys. On some occasions, perhaps, but not that one. I do admire Spielberg for giving that cliche the thumb in the eye in the parallel shots of people climbing walls in Berlin and in suburbia.
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Post by s.w.a.c. » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:58 am

Donald Binks wrote:
The bane of most films of the last 20-30 years: TOO LONG
Never a truer word said!
The last 20-30 years? I finally watched Preminger's Exodus a couple of weeks back, and I've got the roadshow version of Hawaii coming my way shortly. It's nothing new.

But I do agree with you there, I enjoyed The Revenant, but they could have kept it to two hours without losing any of the story line.
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Post by drednm » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:13 am

s.w.a.c. wrote:
Donald Binks wrote:
The bane of most films of the last 20-30 years: TOO LONG
Never a truer word said!
The last 20-30 years? I finally watched Preminger's Exodus a couple of weeks back, and I've got the roadshow version of Hawaii coming my way shortly. It's nothing new.

But I do agree with you there, I enjoyed The Revenant, but they could have kept it to two hours without losing any of the story line.
Of course exceptions. Lots of "big" pictures passed the 2-hour mark, but these days Woody Allen seems to be the only filmmaker who consistently keeps his films from running too long. Very few films can sustain a running time longer than 2 hours ... but that's just my opinion.
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Post by R Michael Pyle » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:21 am

Gotta admit I absolutely loved "The Revenant"! BUT: by the end I nearly had jaundice from a certain need to go, and I was sitting in the middle of an aisle, so I didn't get up until the end. I'm sure I was yellow-faced - and the length was the cause. Yeah, it was long. Yeah, it was long. Yeah, it was long...

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Post by entredeuxguerres » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:25 am

drednm wrote:...Very few films can sustain a running time longer than 2 hours ... but that's just my opinion.
Hence, the great superiority of BBC's multi-part productions of literary classics over H'wood's similar efforts.

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Post by entredeuxguerres » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:26 am

R Michael Pyle wrote:Gotta admit I absolutely loved "The Revenant"! BUT: by the end I nearly had jaundice from a certain need to go, and I was sitting in the middle of an aisle, so I didn't get up until the end. I'm sure I was yellow-faced - and the length was the cause. Yeah, it was long. Yeah, it was long. Yeah, it was long...
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Post by R Michael Pyle » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:34 am

entredeuxguerres wrote:
R Michael Pyle wrote:Gotta admit I absolutely loved "The Revenant"! BUT: by the end I nearly had jaundice from a certain need to go, and I was sitting in the middle of an aisle, so I didn't get up until the end. I'm sure I was yellow-faced - and the length was the cause. Yeah, it was long. Yeah, it was long. Yeah, it was long...
You didn't think to bring a Dixie cup with you?
I'm presently in Dixie for the winter. You'd think they'd supply the cups. No, what I really needed to be was IN my cups - a good bottle of Lafite, or three - but, then I wouldn't have enjoyed the film. Would I...?

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