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RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:30 am
by earlytalkiebuffRob
Is there a decent copy of this film out there? I remember it being scheduled by the BBC in the 1970s (missed it) as well as being missing from the John Baxter season at London's NFT. All the copies on YouTube look dreadful, as if taped a very long time ago and suspect the same goes for the DVDs out there...

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:31 am
by boblipton
The only copy I've ever seen looks like it was recorded with a hand-held camera from a wonky TV set.

Bob

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:00 am
by earlytalkiebuffRob
boblipton wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:31 am
The only copy I've ever seen looks like it was recorded with a hand-held camera from a wonky TV set.

Bob
That good? One wonders if the late Bob Monkhouse taped it at the time...

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:07 pm
by dodonoseo
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Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:14 am
by BudAbbott
On a slightly different note...

I've had a bit of an interest in John Baxter for a bit, having seen a few of his films, and been charmed by them. This thread led me to his IMDB listing again. Go look at that picture there. Baxter lived from 1896 - 1975. There's not one chance in a thousand that that's him.

This time I'm not even going to try correcting it... You think any of those idiots have any sense of when this picture has to be from? If that's a man born in 1896, then I really am Bud Abbott.

Nope, it's not worth the annoyance.

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:55 pm
by moviepas
Here's what the BFI says they have on this film and their notes:


TitleRamsbottom Rides Again (Original title)
Film / Video
Materials held in the BFI National Archive

Accessible materials to view (1)
35mm BW Positive - CTA - Combined - 8063 Feet - - C-1073521

Viewing - Film print can be requested for access (servicing required)

Film materials (6)
35mm BW Positive - CTA - Combined - 8063 Feet - - C-1073521

Viewing - Film print can be requested for access (servicing required)

35mm Dupe Negative - CTA - Mute - 8339 Feet - - C-133963

Master - Restricted access to preserved film - suitable for duplication

35mm Dupe Negative - CTA - Sound - 8339 Feet - - C-133964

Master - Restricted access to preserved film - suitable for duplication

35mm Duplicating Positive - CTA - Combined - 8354 Feet - - C-133965

Master - Restricted access to preserved film

35mm Original Negative - Mixed - Mute - 8354 Feet - - C-133961

Master - Restricted access to preserved film

35mm Original Negative - CTA - Sound - 8354 Feet - - C-133962

Master - Restricted access to preserved film

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:15 am
by earlytalkiebuffRob
moviepas wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:55 pm
Here's what the BFI says they have on this film and their notes:


TitleRamsbottom Rides Again (Original title)
Film / Video
Materials held in the BFI National Archive

Accessible materials to view (1)
35mm BW Positive - CTA - Combined - 8063 Feet - - C-1073521

Viewing - Film print can be requested for access (servicing required)

Film materials (6)
35mm BW Positive - CTA - Combined - 8063 Feet - - C-1073521

Viewing - Film print can be requested for access (servicing required)

35mm Dupe Negative - CTA - Mute - 8339 Feet - - C-133963

Master - Restricted access to preserved film - suitable for duplication

35mm Dupe Negative - CTA - Sound - 8339 Feet - - C-133964

Master - Restricted access to preserved film - suitable for duplication

35mm Duplicating Positive - CTA - Combined - 8354 Feet - - C-133965

Master - Restricted access to preserved film

35mm Original Negative - Mixed - Mute - 8354 Feet - - C-133961

Master - Restricted access to preserved film

35mm Original Negative - CTA - Sound - 8354 Feet - - C-133962

Master - Restricted access to preserved film
Thank you. I should, of course have consulted my catalogue of Viewing Copies or the BFI Online Catalogue, although it is often difficult to find out information about film condition, as it is one thing having a copy, and another having a copy in viewable condition, not to mention issues of copyright... At least it sounds promising...

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:18 am
by earlytalkiebuffRob
BudAbbott wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:14 am
On a slightly different note...

I've had a bit of an interest in John Baxter for a bit, having seen a few of his films, and been charmed by them. This thread led me to his IMDB listing again. Go look at that picture there. Baxter lived from 1896 - 1975. There's not one chance in a thousand that that's him.

This time I'm not even going to try correcting it... You think any of those idiots have any sense of when this picture has to be from? If that's a man born in 1896, then I really am Bud Abbott.

Nope, it's not worth the annoyance.
I had a similar experience with Wikipedia with a photo which was clearly incorrect even if one knew nothing about the person apart from his birth and death dates. Another reason why one should always cite information sources in case they're unreliable...

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:44 pm
by BudAbbott
I had a similar thing happen a few years ago with a picture they'd had for the director David Miller which was clearly not him. Eventually they corrected it, but not before refusing to for a while.

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:37 am
by moviepas
I refuse to update glaring Wikipedia facts anymore and not for a long time. I don't need to receive instant threats of banning and defacing their site.
IMDB I even longer than that stopped after I presented corrections for some German wartime films I had studio records of. The errors were not acknowledged and they remained.

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:21 am
by earlytalkiebuffRob
moviepas wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:37 am
I refuse to update glaring Wikipedia facts anymore and not for a long time. I don't need to receive instant threats of banning and defacing their site.
IMDB I even longer than that stopped after I presented corrections for some German wartime films I had studio records of. The errors were not acknowledged and they remained.
Might depend upon if the films were actually accessible for checking. Usually I have made corrections and amendments only if a copy of the film is available for verification.

Re: RAMSBOTTOM RIDES AGAIN (1956)

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:26 am
by moviepas
Might depend upon if the films were actually accessible for checking.\\
On the case of Wikipedia I had a legitimate Network UK disc in my hands when I tried to make the amendment.