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Post by Brooksie » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:24 pm

rollot24 wrote:I thought the Affron was very good. Throughout the book he always held his admiration for her acting very high indeed but the deeper he got into her personal life, particularly her politics, the less enamored he became.

At least that's my reading of it.
Overall, I think Affron was pretty fair. His stated aim was to interrogate the mystique that Gish had built around herself, and he does that quite objectively.

It would also have been all too easy to sensationalise the parts about her political beliefs, and yet he managed to avoid doing so.

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Post by rollot24 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:09 pm

silentfilm wrote: After reading Barry Paris' biography of Louise Brooks, I'm certain that I could never have been friends with her. But I still enjoyed the book!
Yes, another fantasy shot to pieces. :(

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Post by Bob Birchard » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:00 am

FrankFay wrote:Richard Schickel's book on Harold Lloyd isn't exactly poisonous but it's rather sour. It's pretty obvious he doesn't "get" Lloyd's films and as a person Lloyd comes off as shallow and adolescent. I think he resents that LLoyd had an easy and happy life without scandal and tragedy.
This is Schickel at his best (by that I mean worst). The Schikel book on Lloyd came about when he was the big cheese movie critic for Time Magazine and Time-Life acquired the rights to the Lloyd films. The book was an assignment, pure and simple, and an assignment that his highness didn't want to do. So, rather than sucking it up and getting on with it, Mr. S. opted to write a book that was certain to make anyone who read it not want to bother with anything Lloyd. Schickel later made amends of a sort whan he wrote a piece for Adam Reilly's Lloyd compilation book, stating that in retrospect he may not have been as insightful about Lloyd's films as he might have been with further reflection, but the damage had been done. The problem with Schickel, I've always found is that, no matter what his subject, the books and articles are really always about Schickel in one way or another, and Schickel is pretty uninteresting in the greater scheme of things.

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Post by Bob Birchard » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:13 am

silentfilm wrote: And should we not write biographies of D.W. Griffith, John Wayne, Adolphe Menjou, Frank Capra and Cecil B. DeMille because they were too conservative for us?
I think any author of a biography comes to a subject with a certain set of biases--based on what one has heard and read and the impressions that others have offered. I know when I set to work on "Cecil B. DeMille's Hollywood" I was influenced by all the horror stories that I'd heard about DeMille, including the infamous 1950 SDG meeting. The real question, from a methodological point of view is this: Does one look only for those "facts" that supports one's biases pro or con; or does one remain open to discovering a more well-rounded, and ultimately more human character.

What impressed me as I went through the DeMille archives were a number of things that painted a much different picture of DeMille--but which might easily be dismissed by another researcher looking only to confirm what has already been written. Here are a few examples:

Virtually every letter received by DeMille's office (except for the most kooky) was answered by DeMille or one of his staff. A small gesture--certainly a matter of public relations--but still indicitive of someone with a basic sense of courtesy.

When DeMille was back at Pramount to make "The Sign of the Cross," at a time when he couldn't get arrested in Hollywood and thought it would be his last picture, DeMille threatened to quit shooting if the extras he'd promised work to wer nit called by Paramount's casting office. If he was such an ogre, why would he care if an extra was called or not?

DeMille went out of his way to offer work to down-and-outers (if they didn't drink), up-and-comers, and former associates going back to his earliest days in the theater. Everbody in Hollywood had forgotten Mildred Harris--but she worked for DeMille in picture after picture even if only in small bits. Maude Fealy, who was briefly a star at Thanhouser in the early 1910's and who had worked with DeMille at Elitch's Garden in Denver in his stage days, also found work (with her mother) in picture after picture for DeMille.

One also has to use one's brain in unravelling some stories. In "Hollywood Posse" Diana Sera Cary writes about a "plot" to kill DeMille during the filming of the battle scenes for "The Crusades." He was hated that much by the cowboy stuntmen. Well, I have no doubt that the story may have circulated around Hollywood--but it really doesn't seem plausible. One, DeMille hired lots of extras and bit players--they came to rely on his pictures to get long stretches of work and from all the evidence I've seen in the DeMille files, he was generally loved by the ranks of extras. And two, the big battle scenes with horses in "The Crusades" were all second-unit work. DeMille probably wasn't even on location when they were being shot!

And one can't discount that others who might speak ill of your subject may have their own agendas. Fred Zinnemann and Jospeh L. Mankeiwicz both railed that at the legendary 1950 Screen Directors Guild meeting DeMille had deliberately mispronounced the names of director emigres like William Wyler and Billy Wilder to emphasize their European and Jewish (and therefore un-American) beackgrounds. It turns out that Zinnemann wasn't even at the meeting. He was in New York at the time. And Mankiewicz was lying (or addle-brained). The rules of SDG meetings precluded the mentioning of anyone by name in order to avoid the potentional for "personalities," and though the rules were not strictly enforced, a reading of the transcript shows that DeMille never mentioned anyone's name during the meeting with or without accent, and in fact had been against requiring the Guild membership to sign a loyalty oath!

There are several reasons why there are so many scandalous (both scandal-ridden and scandalously researched) Hollywood bios. Number 1, I'm sure is attributable to the old adage: "sex sells." Painting Valentino as a "bugger boy" or Clara Bow as a "nympho" will get attention, and one can site all sorts of dubious sources for these oft-repeated allegations, so one can claim due dilligence without really breaking a sweat. Number 2, many enthusiastic and well-meaning writers simply don't know how to reasearch beyond easily accessible secondary sources. Charles Higham is somewhat guilty of this. He does genuine research to come up with a half dozen facts that no one has discovered before, but the rest of his texts are compiled from perusing secondary sources. Again, he can cite chapter and verse and claim due diligence without doing any heavy lifting. And 3 (You'll note that all three points are essentially related), doing real research is hard work--and you don't get paid for research--you get paid for the book when it comes out. Only the insane (or the truly dedicated) will spend the years it might take to exhaust all the potential surviving primary sources.
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Post by boblipton » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:29 am

Part of what Robert is referring to is known as 'confirmation bias'. One examines the evidence and the facts that supports one's thesis just pop out, while the ones that don't, somehow manage to hide themselves. Not actual dishonesty, just human nature.

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Post by Mike Gebert » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:41 am

I agree completely. But most people that live to be 90 get to be very conservative in their old age, so I don't see anything wrong with that. And should we not write biographies of D.W. Griffith, John Wayne, Adolphe Menjou, Frank Capra and Cecil B. DeMille because they were too conservative for us?
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Post by azjazzman » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:18 pm

boblipton wrote:Part of what Richard is referring to is known as 'confirmation bias'. One examines the evidence and the facts that supports one's thesis just pop out, while the ones that don't, somehow manage to hid ethemselves. Not actual dishonesty, just human nature.

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The scientific method of proving/disproving a hypothesis or theory should be used more when researching historical data. One common method is to test a theory by trying to disprove it. You gather all empirical, observable and measurable information that runs contrary to your hypothesis, and when you have exhausted all avenues that would disprove it, then it is reasonable to assume that the original theory was correct.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of "historians" do not understand this. They form a theory about their subject and then start doing research in an attempt to prove their theory correct. They systematically collate all the information that supports their hypothesis and reject anything that runs contrary, using entirely subjective and biased rationalizations to do so.

This type of methodology would get dismissed out of hand in any scientific endeavor, yet it gets applauded as "groundbreaking research" in fields like motion picture history.

The Marion Meade theory that Buster Keaton was illiterate is a good example of this. I know for a fact that Eleanor Keaton provided the author with information that would've tended to disprove this, but the author rejected it and stuck with her theory anyway.

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Post by Hal Erickson » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:17 pm

Re "bias" and drawing the conclusion you've already jumped to:

I've been reading some articles and book excerpts by comedy writer Edmund Hartman. Amazingly, everyone with whom the liberal Hartman disagrees with politically--and there are some very famous names--turns out to also be anti-semitic, or anti-black, or both. This to me is as suspect as a conversative writer labelling everyone who doesn't agree with him as a Communist.

Possibly Hartman is telling the 100% unvarnished truth. But, still....

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Post by Jim Gettys » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:32 pm

Lillian Gish's autobiography, "The Movies, Mr. Griffith & Me" (1969), was co-written by someone named Ann Pinchot, who later wrote a lurid and scurrilous roman a clef called "Vanessa" (1978), with thinly-veiled characters representing Gish and Griffith and many others in their circle.

Whatever motivated Pinchot's trashy betrayal is a mystery.

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Post by stovelsten » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:59 am

Nitratedreams wrote:Also, Joe Morella's 'The It Girl: The Incredible Story of Clara Bow'. Written more like a trashy pulp novel than a biography, complete with obviously made-up dialogue and all the regurgitated rumors including the football team gangbang. Read it and was simultaneously enraged and intrigued at its obvious crap-factor. Another brilliantly written fantasy novel; one I appreciate for being just that.
I think Morellas / Epsteins book (1976) on Bow isn't as poisonous as for instance, "Running Wild", by Stenn (1988). Stenn is a preacher whereas ME is unpretentious. Almost any text is useful. The trick is to subtract the authors agenda from the content. The moment you want to sit in the writers lap you are lost. On the front-cover of "Running Wild", there is a pic of a victimized girl, almost begging for mercy. The front-cover of the "it-girl" is just flapper Bow, the girl who stole an era.
In "Camelot" Micheal Palin is trapped in the castle of "anthrax"...

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Post by rudyfan » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:45 am

Jim Gettys wrote:Lillian Gish's autobiography, "The Movies, Mr. Griffith & Me" (1969), was co-written by someone named Ann Pinchot, who later wrote a lurid and scurrilous roman a clef called "Vanessa" (1978), with thinly-veiled characters representing Gish and Griffith and many others in their circle.

Whatever motivated Pinchot's trashy betrayal is a mystery.

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I actually picked up a copy of this book recently since, from what I understand, Vanessa is supposed to be Dorothy Gish. I've not started reading it, over the Xmas holidays, I expect.
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Post by Brooksie » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:52 am

On a slightly related note, I see Marion Meade's released a biography of Nathanael and Eileen West. To quote:
The bad news about “Lonelyhearts” is that Ms. Meade’s own unsubtle voice will make you wince on almost every page. To hear her tell this story is like listening to someone play Aaron Copland on a kazoo ...

Worse by far are Ms. Meade’s dismal readings of West’s novels. She has no feeling for his work and compares not one but two of his fictions to Monty Python sketches. The “main theme” of West’s 1934 novel “A Cool Million” is said to be “how bad things can befall cute young boys.” The howling sound you hear is West keening from his grave.
In the same way that Buster was illiterate, apparently West was gay and his wife was bipolar. Think I'll be giving this one a miss.

Coincidentally, the reason I happened to stumble upon it is that I'm currently reading Tom Dardis' `Some Time in the Sun', which covers the experiences of a number of authors (including West) who worked in Hollywood in the 30s and 40s.

I must admit, I'm not crazy about it. It is partly a stated, but somewhat confused, attempt to discredit Aaron Latham's `Crazy Sundays' (about F. Scott Fitzgerald's Hollywood years). I can't quite figure out what Dardis' problem with it was, or why he thought Latham's view was so terribly different from its own.

When it comes down to it, the best biographies seem to be the ones where the authors make a cogent argument for their position. There is nothing worse than one that simply runs a conjecture up the flagpole and expects the reader to salute it.

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Post by Nitratedreams » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:09 pm

stovelsten wrote:
Nitratedreams wrote:Also, Joe Morella's 'The It Girl: The Incredible Story of Clara Bow'. Written more like a trashy pulp novel than a biography, complete with obviously made-up dialogue and all the regurgitated rumors including the football team gangbang. Read it and was simultaneously enraged and intrigued at its obvious crap-factor. Another brilliantly written fantasy novel; one I appreciate for being just that.
I think Morellas / Epsteins book (1976) on Bow isn't as poisonous as for instance, "Running Wild", by Stenn (1988). Stenn is a preacher whereas ME is unpretentious. Almost any text is useful. The trick is to subtract the authors agenda from the content. The moment you want to sit in the writers lap you are lost. On the front-cover of "Running Wild", there is a pic of a victimized girl, almost begging for mercy. The front-cover of the "it-girl" is just flapper Bow, the girl who stole an era.
In "Camelot" Micheal Palin is trapped in the castle of "anthrax"...
Stenn's biographical style, I've found, involves his own emotional input, giving one the impression that he genuinely wished he could have been there to help or befriend her in addition to telling her story. This doesn't mean at all that his book on Bow lacks any biographical merit. 'Running Wild' was almost painstakingly researched--with an extensive bibliography, unlike Morella's book, backing everything up--with Stenn going so far as to talk to any surviving people who knew her. I mean, say what you want, dude, but thats effort.

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Post by kaleidoscopeworld » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:10 pm

This recent Barbara Stanwyck bio was just awful:
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Terribly written, questionable sources, actually seemed biased against its subject.


Also, Hollywood Lesbians by Boze Hadleigh.
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I'm interested in queer history, but Hadleigh is a total hack. This book is no thoughtful lens about sexuality and the Hollywood system -- it's about his agenda, not about the lives and careers of these women. The way he virtually bullied some of his interview subjects was uncomfortable to read.

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Post by Brooksie » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:31 pm

kaleidoscopeworld wrote:I'm interested in queer history, but Hadleigh is a total hack. This book is no thoughtful lens about sexuality and the Hollywood system -- it's about his agenda, not about the lives and careers of these women. The way he virtually bullied some of his interview subjects was uncomfortable to read.
The same can be said about the vast percentage of biographies that purport to reveal the `full truth' about who was or wasn't in the closet in Hollywood - Valentino being the most obvious example.

Just imagine how terrific a genuinely scholarly biography on the experiences of the likes of William Haines and Ramon Novarro would be - a sort of `offscreen' equivalent to `The Celluloid Closet'.

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Post by FrankFay » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:48 pm

I thought that the William Haines biography ("Wisecracker") was fairly decent and Andre Soares biography of Novarro seemed good- at least it didn't repeat the old Valentino paperweight story.
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Post by stovelsten » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:10 pm

Nitratedreams wrote:
stovelsten wrote:
Nitratedreams wrote:Also, Joe Morella's 'The It Girl: The Incredible Story of Clara Bow'. Written more like a trashy pulp novel than a biography, complete with obviously made-up dialogue and all the regurgitated rumors including the football team gangbang. Read it and was simultaneously enraged and intrigued at its obvious crap-factor. Another brilliantly written fantasy novel; one I appreciate for being just that.
I think Morellas / Epsteins book (1976) on Bow isn't as poisonous as for instance, "Running Wild", by Stenn (1988). Stenn is a preacher whereas ME is unpretentious. Almost any text is useful. The trick is to subtract the authors agenda from the content. The moment you want to sit in the writers lap you are lost. On the front-cover of "Running Wild", there is a pic of a victimized girl, almost begging for mercy. The front-cover of the "it-girl" is just flapper Bow, the girl who stole an era.
In "Camelot" Micheal Palin is trapped in the castle of "anthrax"...
Stenn's biographical style, I've found, involves his own emotional input, giving one the impression that he genuinely wished he could have been there to help or befriend her in addition to telling her story. This doesn't mean at all that his book on Bow lacks any biographical merit. 'Running Wild' was almost painstakingly researched--with an extensive bibliography, unlike Morella's book, backing everything up--with Stenn going so far as to talk to any surviving people who knew her. I mean, say what you want, dude, but thats effort.
I never questioned Stenn's effort. Only what makes him tick. Once you found out, you can decipher his "facts" and tell when to trust them or not. Now John Cleese as Lancelot enters the castle "anthrax" to save Michael Palin from himself...

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Post by Brooksie » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:02 pm

FrankFay wrote:I thought that the William Haines biography ("Wisecracker") was fairly decent and Andre Soares biography of Novarro seemed good- at least it didn't repeat the old Valentino paperweight story.
I agree - I was talking more about an omnibus biography in the style of `City of Nets' that told the story of the experience of gay and lesbian actors in Hollywood. `The Celluloid Closet' did it for what appeared onscreen - a really good account of the experience offscreen would be a valuable thing. A few attempts have been made, but they inevitably end up on the tawdry side, rather than the intellectual.
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Post by FrankFay » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:16 am

Brooksie wrote:
FrankFay wrote:I thought that the William Haines biography ("Wisecracker") was fairly decent and Andre Soares biography of Novarro seemed good- at least it didn't repeat the old Valentino paperweight story.
I agree - I was talking more about an omnibus biography in the style of `City of Nets' that told the story of the experience of gay and lesbian actors in Hollywood. `The Celluloid Closet' did it for what appeared onscreen - a really good account of the experience offscreen would be a valuable thing. A few attempts have been made, but they seem inevitably end up on the tawdry side, rather than intellectual.

Going rather off topic (though the thread has swung this way) there's a very good book about Gay and Lesbian characters portrayed on stage: "We can always call them Bulgarians". http://gaybookreviews.info/review/3508/256

To bring us back to Movies, here's the explanation of the title:

Hollywood producer Samuel Goldwyn, after purchasing the screen rights to a play, had to be told it was a lesbian love story. He shrugged his shoulders and said, “We can always call them Bulgarians.”
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Post by Jim Roots » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:39 am

Brooksie wrote:There is nothing worse than one that simply runs a conjecture up the flagpole and expects the reader to salute it.
You can always decide which finger to salute it with.


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Post by Lamar » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:24 pm

Brooksie wrote:
FrankFay wrote:I thought that the William Haines biography ("Wisecracker") was fairly decent and Andre Soares biography of Novarro seemed good- at least it didn't repeat the old Valentino paperweight story.
I agree - I was talking more about an omnibus biography in the style of `City of Nets' that told the story of the experience of gay and lesbian actors in Hollywood. `The Celluloid Closet' did it for what appeared onscreen - a really good account of the experience offscreen would be a valuable thing. A few attempts have been made, but they inevitably end up on the tawdry side, rather than the intellectual.
I found Mann's "Behind the Screen: How Gays and Lesbians Shaped Hollywood, 1910-1969" to be just that: valuable without being tawdry.

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Post by kaleidoscopeworld » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:22 am

Brooksie wrote:The same can be said about the vast percentage of biographies that purport to reveal the `full truth' about who was or wasn't in the closet in Hollywood - Valentino being the most obvious example.
Ugh, I know what you mean. I'm not averse to sexual encounters being written about (cf Edmund White, Samuel Delany - not film-related, but authors who do this well), but I want to read something that's well-written, and doesn't dwell on teh shocking! gay! sex! to the exclusion of saying anything interesting about the subject and delving into their complexities.

The Celluloid Closet is fantastic, but it had the advantage of dealing with texts rather than people.

I will have to check out the William Haines and Novarro biographies, and the Mann book. Thanks for the suggestions, FrankFay and Lamar.

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Post by spadeneal » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:13 am

moviepas wrote:I read a recent one on Doris Day from the local free library and boy besides the errors of film fact and literals there were too many unbelievable facts bordering on foul language and sex. Reminds me of the Hedy Lamarr book she wanted withdrawn.
I read that one too and was supremely disappointed; if any 20th century artist needs a reconsideration in the current context, it's Day, both as a singer and an actress/icon. In the (rejected) review I wrote for it I was trying to find a nice way to say that the gay perspective of the author was at odds with the tale told and the material he was trying to present. That may sound chauvanistic or socially backwards, but it was absolutely the case with that book.

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Post by Lokke Heiss » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:44 am

If a writer was going to spend two, three years plus, writing a biography on a person, it would be hard NOT to use that person as a Rosarch Test. The first question the author would have to ask themselves would be: why do I want to write this book-in other words what do I see in this other person that makes me want to 'inhabit' them for three years?

As the use of a metaphor often tells the listener more about the person using it than what they used it for, a biography tells the reader more about the author than the person being dissected.
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Post by Daniel Eagan » Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:25 am

This may have been covered in another thread, but is it possible to write a biography without ending up hating your subject? (Or at least having mixed feelings?)

And don't all great artists have unlikable social flaws or shortcomings that are part of the reason why they are great artists?

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Post by Frederica » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:22 am

Daniel Eagan wrote:This may have been covered in another thread, but is it possible to write a biography without ending up hating your subject? (Or at least having mixed feelings?)

And don't all great artists have unlikable social flaws or shortcomings that are part of the reason why they are great artists?
Everyone has social flaws and shortcomings. (Although I don't think that the flaws are necessarily the reason someone is a great artist.) It's annoying when biographers don't accept that and insist upon whitewashing the subject, sometimes to the point of turning said subject into a cartoon.
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Post by missdupont » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:35 pm

I think David Thomson did a remarkable job catching David O. Selznick in SHOWMAN (but of course, I did work on it). He thought his subject was exasperating, exciting, challenging, curious, but I think he came away with a positive feeling towards DOS.

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Post by Nitratedreams » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:44 pm

stovelsten wrote:
Nitratedreams wrote:
stovelsten wrote: I think Morellas / Epsteins book (1976) on Bow isn't as poisonous as for instance, "Running Wild", by Stenn (1988). Stenn is a preacher whereas ME is unpretentious. Almost any text is useful. The trick is to subtract the authors agenda from the content. The moment you want to sit in the writers lap you are lost. On the front-cover of "Running Wild", there is a pic of a victimized girl, almost begging for mercy. The front-cover of the "it-girl" is just flapper Bow, the girl who stole an era.
In "Camelot" Micheal Palin is trapped in the castle of "anthrax"...
Stenn's biographical style, I've found, involves his own emotional input, giving one the impression that he genuinely wished he could have been there to help or befriend her in addition to telling her story. This doesn't mean at all that his book on Bow lacks any biographical merit. 'Running Wild' was almost painstakingly researched--with an extensive bibliography, unlike Morella's book, backing everything up--with Stenn going so far as to talk to any surviving people who knew her. I mean, say what you want, dude, but thats effort.
I never questioned Stenn's effort. Only what makes him tick. Once you found out, you can decipher his "facts" and tell when to trust them or not. Now John Cleese as Lancelot enters the castle "anthrax" to save Michael Palin from himself...
Regardless of whether Stenn was more emotionally motivated to write Clara's story or not, that doesn't change the historical accuracy of the biography. He might have been biased in his opinions of Clara, but the sources he used--i.e. various media outlets of the time and those who knew her--aren't.

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Post by stovelsten » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:08 am

Nitratedreams wrote:
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Nitratedreams wrote: Stenn's biographical style, I've found, involves his own emotional input, giving one the impression that he genuinely wished he could have been there to help or befriend her in addition to telling her story. This doesn't mean at all that his book on Bow lacks any biographical merit. 'Running Wild' was almost painstakingly researched--with an extensive bibliography, unlike Morella's book, backing everything up--with Stenn going so far as to talk to any surviving people who knew her. I mean, say what you want, dude, but thats effort.
I never questioned Stenn's effort. Only what makes him tick. Once you found out, you can decipher his "facts" and tell when to trust them or not. Now John Cleese as Lancelot enters the castle "anthrax" to save Michael Palin from himself...
Regardless of whether Stenn was more emotionally motivated to write Clara's story or not, that doesn't change the historical accuracy of the biography. He might have been biased in his opinions of Clara, but the sources he used--i.e. various media outlets of the time and those who knew her--aren't.
(Swedish originated idiom crashed, sorry). As long as Stenn digs into archives and provides information unrelated to the "girl victim" dimension his data is generally reliable. I assume you got a copy of "Running Wild". On page 265 Stenn tries to prove Robert Bow's proposed rape of Clara. Watch out for when Stenn "mind-reads" Bow and uses her mother's (since 1930 known) prostitution as a "Trojan horse" (not the ball playing one) to make the unfounded "rape" claim stick. It's kind of beautiful...
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