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Crawford Biography

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:33 pm
by Michael O'Regan
What's the best one to purchase?

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:54 am
by Michael O'Regan
None??

Oh, well.

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:07 am
by Lamar
The one by veteran Hollywood writer Bob Thomas. It came out around the same time as Mommie Dearest. Seemed to be pretty balanced when I read it then.

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:39 pm
by Michael O'Regan
Thanks.
How about Spoto's book?

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:51 pm
by George O'Brien
I haven't seen it, but I would not recommend any of Spoto's books. The Bob Thomas is probably the best, and can be picked up for practically nothing in any second hand book shop.

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:11 pm
by Michael O'Regan

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:00 pm
by Jay Schwartz
Not exactly what you were asking for, but if you ever have the opportunity, I highly recommend checking out the truly startling NUDE HOME MOVIES of Joan Crawford, which were shown at Cinefest!

Not that I know how you can see them now...

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:00 pm
by George O'Brien
No. Charlotte Chandler's books are very idiosyncratic remeniscences rather than actual biographies.

What is it you want to know about Crawford? Just ask here; you may get more truth than from any published biography.

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:03 pm
by Michael O'Regan
There's nothing in particular I want to know. I just fancy reading a biography.

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:28 pm
by George O'Brien
Isn't she on Wikipedia?

A biography, especially in the case of Joan Crawford, is usually by someone who is an idolatrous fan, or by someone with an ax to grind.

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:49 pm
by Frederica
Michael O'Regan wrote:There's nothing in particular I want to know. I just fancy reading a biography.
There are two detailed websites on Crawford here:
http://www.legendaryjoancrawford.com/biography.html
and
http://www.joancrawfordbest.com/menupage.htm

Lots of pretty pictures.

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:19 am
by Michael O'Regan
George O'Brien wrote:
A biography, especially in the case of Joan Crawford, is usually by someone who is an idolatrous fan, or by someone with an ax to grind.
So, you don't read biographys?

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:54 pm
by Michael O'Regan
Frederica,

Those are both excellent sites. Thanks for the links.

:D

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:35 pm
by George O'Brien
"So, you don't read biographys?"

Sorry, I meant movie star biographies.I read them, but there are plenty of bad ones out there. A good one is Douglas Fairbanks Jr's autobiography, "Salad Days". It sheds some light on the young Joan: he was her first husband.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:06 pm
by Brooksie
George O'Brien wrote:"So, you don't read biographys?"

Sorry, I meant movie star biographies.I read them, but there are plenty of bad ones out there. A good one is Douglas Fairbanks Jr's autobiography, "Salad Days". It sheds some light on the young Joan: he was her first husband.
I liked `Salad Days', and Fairbanks Jr comes across as a very endearing fellow, but I thought it deserved far better editing. Even moreso its followup, the first third of which is a recap of `Salad Days'.

There was a discussion a while ago that touched on Crawford bios, and the extent to which `Mommie Dearest' has made a good and balanced one nearly impossible (http://www.nitrateville.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0). No doubt it will take another decade or so before someone writes one without reference to it. I very much look forward to that day.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:18 am
by Brooksie
The latest New Yorker has just published a lengthy review of the new Donald Spoto autobiography - unfortunately their website only contains an abstract (they seem to be putting less and less of their material online nowadays).

It falls very much into the `let's move on from Mommie Dearest' category - it even suggests that the relationship between Joan and Christina imitated that of Mildred and Veda in `Mildred Pierce'. Slightly far fetched, but an interesting theory.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:14 pm
by Michael O'Regan
Yeah, I just read that article in the New Yorker last night. It was written by David Denby.
Interesting enough read though Denby appears to feel that Spoto's book is a little heavy on the praise for Joans acting ability.

I was thinking about buying this book but someone earlier in this thread suggested that Spotos work generally wasn't worth the trouble.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:44 pm
by Brooksie
I'm definitely giving it a go. I don't mind Spoto - he dips his pen in the purple pot every now and then, but I liked his biography of Preston Sturgess.