TRAILERS WITH ORIGINAL MATERIAL

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TRAILERS WITH ORIGINAL MATERIAL

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TRAILERS / COMING ATTRACTION REELS CONTAINING SCENES, OR MUSIC, NOT SEEN IN THE FILM BEING PROMOTED.

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ROMEO AND JULIET (1936)

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Post by pwl » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:08 am

long time lurker here! just thought i should add a couple more titles:

THOROUGHBREDS DON'T CRY (1937) - Freddie Bartholomew introduces Ronald Sinclair, and plugs his own THE DEVIL IS A SISSY

THE MALTESE FALCON (1941) - Sidney Greenstreet talks about the black bird

THE BIG SLEEP (1946) - Bogart ventures into the Hollywood Public Library and checks out the book and the librarian

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Post by bobfells » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:16 am

MAMMY (1930) has Jolson talking up the film to a reporter (played by Grant Withers) and says that Noah Beery is in the film but he's not.

THE BIG STORE (1941) has Henry O'Neill announcing that this is the Marx Bros. final film, they show up.

KID GALAHAD (1937) has Edw. G. Robinson and Bette Davis as themselves deciding whether to re-enact a scene from the film in character or just continue talking as themselves.

THE PETRIFIED FOREST (1936) starts out using a negative image that morphs into a positive. Not sure of the point except to be eye-catching.

I might as well mention CITIZEN KANE (1941) and PSYCHO (1960) though these trailers are almost legendary.
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Post by CoffeeDan » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:26 pm

bobfells wrote:MAMMY (1930) has Jolson talking up the film to a reporter (played by Grant Withers) and says that Noah Beery is in the film but he's not.
The MAMMY trailer also includes a brief scene from the opening parade sequence that isn't in the film.

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Post by Christopher Jacobs » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:39 am

The practice of a film's trailer being essentially a separate promotional film instead of a series of clips, or as today often a two-minute abridgement of the entire film, was quite common before the 1970s when the latter format became the rule. Many had a star or director talking to the audience about the film, or an announcer giving background on the production with a few clips from behind the scenes as well as from the film. ANATOMY OF A MURDER (1959) has quite an interesting trailer. DeMille does some interesting trailers for a number of his films, as well. For "NitratevVille-era" films, the list is pretty long. For films released in the past 30-40 years, they're fairly rare.

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Post by bobfells » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:48 am

Jolson again - the trailer for JAZZ SINGER has john Mijan as the affable host speaking directly to the viewer and introducing clips of the premiere. Oddly, these clips are totally silent except for Miljan's voice over comments.
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Post by Ray Faiola » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:31 am

The trailer for ARSENIC AND OLD LACE concludes with Edward Everett Horton about to drink some Elderberry wine. The scene was cut from the feature after the preview.

The trailer for THE WOLF MAN includes a shot from the deleted sequence where Chaney wrestles Kurt Katch's pet bear.
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Post by mndean » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:52 am

I remember seeing a scene which was trimmed a bit short (only a couple of seconds) to remove a joke in the film Hard To Handle showing up in full in the trailer, and there were other films which showed alternate takes or angles in their trailers. Those trailers lingering on TCM's site are interesting in how the they used other pieces not in the finished film.

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Post by Rollo Treadway » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:28 am

The elusive original trailer for The Navigator is said to include a gag that Keaton personally loved but felt compelled to delete from the film due to bad preview reactions.

The trailer for The Magnificent Ambersons includes a tantalizing snippet of the original finale with Moorehead and Cotten in the boarding house. Why on earth wasn't this included with the recent DVD edition from Warner?


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Post by s.w.a.c. » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:13 am

The trailer for It's a Wonderful Life uses alternate takes of scenes, the first time I saw it I was surprised to hear Jimmy Stewart (and others) deliver lines with a different inflection than what I was used to after watching it nearly a dozen times.

One of my favourite trailers is the one for Operation Mad Ball with all-original gags by Ernie Kovaks.

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Post by Hal Erickson » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:20 pm

[quote="s.w.a.c."]The trailer for It's a Wonderful Life uses alternate takes of scenes, the first time I saw it I was surprised to hear Jimmy Stewart (and others) deliver lines with a different inflection than what I was used to after watching it nearly a dozen times. [quote]

This also happens in the trailer for MGM's ADAM'S RIB, which is narrated by Pete Smith.

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Post by Monsieur X » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:42 pm

The trailer for THE BIRDS features Alfred Hitchcock discussing the film with the audience while eating a roast chicken.
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Post by WaverBoy » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:15 pm

The trailer for 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA (1954) contains alternate takes.

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Post by FrankFay » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:12 pm

Hal Erickson wrote:
s.w.a.c. wrote:The trailer for It's a Wonderful Life uses alternate takes of scenes, the first time I saw it I was surprised to hear Jimmy Stewart (and others) deliver lines with a different inflection than what I was used to after watching it nearly a dozen times.

This also happens in the trailer for MGM's ADAM'S RIB, which is narrated by Pete Smith.

Using alternate takes in trailers was a pretty common thing- it saved having to make dupes of the footage. A good example is the trailer for Glen or Glenda in the film Dolores fuller takes off her sweater and hands it to Ed Wood. In the trailer she takes it off and drops it in his hands.
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Post by s.w.a.c. » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:38 pm

Frenzy has a great Hitchcock-hosted trailer as well. "That's my tie!"

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Post by s.w.a.c. » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:40 pm

William Castle appears in a lot of the trailers for his films as well, a la his inspiration Hitchcock, but they aren't nearly as amusing (still fun though, as he tries to sell us on a new gimmick, like Emergo or the spine-tingling Percepto in The Tingler).
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Post by mndean » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:34 pm

FrankFay wrote: Using alternate takes in trailers was a pretty common thing- it saved having to make dupes of the footage. A good example is the trailer for Glen or Glenda in the film Dolores fuller takes off her sweater and hands it to Ed Wood. In the trailer she takes it off and drops it in his hands.
It's very common, so common that any '30s trailer you see on TCM can often be made up of alternate takes, some of which are really not up to snuff, whether in line delivery, sound, shot angle, whatever. It was interesting to watch, I thought Roy Del Ruth couldn't possibly have had time for second takes!

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Post by Monsieur X » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:54 pm

s.w.a.c. wrote:Frenzy has a great Hitchcock-hosted trailer as well. "That's my tie!"

Thank you for that! Very amusing, and I had never seen it before.
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Post by FrankFay » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:51 pm

The trailer for Citizen Kane - it's a neat little work on it's own with specially shot footage- and if you didn't know better you'd think it was a comedy.

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Post by Monsieur X » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:19 pm

FrankFay wrote:The trailer for Citizen Kane - it's a neat little work on it's own with specially shot footage- and if you didn't know better you'd think it was a comedy.

Very nice ballyhoo indeed! And very amusing!
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Post by Jim Reid » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:55 am

I always enjoyed Hitcock's Marnie trailer. Very droll.


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Post by Monsieur X » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:11 pm

I always found the trailer for TORN CURTAIN pretty droll. "It'll blow up!" "No it won't, just build it." "We tried that. It blew up."

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Post by Doug Sulpy » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:29 pm

Not sure if this counts, but the silent "Phantom of the Opera" has a shot of the Opera Ghost looming above the theater that isn't in the film.

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Post by FrankFay » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:40 pm

Doug Sulpy wrote:Not sure if this counts, but the silent "Phantom of the Opera" has a shot of the Opera Ghost looming above the theater that isn't in the film.

I think that was created specially for the trailer- but interestingly there is at least one fragment of a lost sequence in the trailer- the phantom riding the counterweight.
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