Olive Thomas in OUT YONDER (1919)

[bobfells]

Here's another rare gem from the Eye Institute of the Netherlands: Olive Thomas in the Selznick Production, OUT YONDER (1919), which they have kindly uploaded to Youtube.

The link and the Silent Era description:

https://youtu.be/RAEypldxQ90


Out Yonder
(1919) American
B&W : [?] Five or Six? reels
Directed by Ralph Ince

Cast: Olive Thomas [Flotsam], Huntley Gordon [Edward Elmer], Mary Coverdale [Mrs. Elmer], Louise Prussing [Clarice Stapleton], John Smiley [Amos Bart], Cyril Chadwick [Reggie Hughes], Edward Ellis [Joey Clark]

Selznick Pictures Corporation production; distributed by Select Pictures Corporation. / Scenario by Edward J. Montague, from the play The Girl From Out Yonder by Pauline Phelps and Marion Short. Cinematography by Harold Sintzenich. / © 20 December 1919 by Selznick Pictures Corporation [LP14596]. Released 21 December 1919. / Standard 35mm spherical 1.37:1 format.

[drednm]

You speak Dutch?

[bobfells]

You speak Dutch?

No, but I'm fluent using the online free translators and then pasting the translation onto the intertitles.

[drednm]

You speak Dutch?

No, but I'm fluent using the online free translators and then pasting the translation onto the intertitles.

Well I guess that'll do it.... now if you could only get ride of that EYE logo

[bobfells]

You speak Dutch?

No, but I'm fluent using the online free translators and then pasting the translation onto the intertitles.

Well I guess that'll do it.... now if you could only get ride of that EYE logo

I can do that too, but only one frame at a time:

[drednm]

I downloaded something that supposedly blotted out logos but all it did was make a big giant smudge in its place. Well. Ok. But not much of an improvement.

[bobfells]

I downloaded something that supposedly blotted out logos but all it did was make a big giant smudge in its place. Well. Ok. But not much of an improvement.

The only logo I objected to was the big bug that GEH stuck on its videos before they pulled them all. The rather modest EYE logo is (to me) a small price to pay for access to these rare films.

[Big Silent Fan]

This is Olive Thomas, hailed the “most beautiful woman in the world” by artist Harrison Fisher?

I've seen "Flapper" and her Bio., but she certainly doesn't look like a beauty queen here. Perhaps it's the hair?

[entredeuxguerres]

The only logo I objected to was the big bug that GEH stuck on its videos before they pulled them all. The rather modest EYE logo is (to me) a small price to pay for access to these rare films.

But must there be TWO of them? The one in the lower left corner is not unreasonable, but that big open mouth (as it looks to me) in the upper right is overkill.

But that, actually, isn't as distracting as the superfluity of long titles; I mean, is this the simple story it appears, or are deep philosophical issues being expounded?

[entredeuxguerres]

This is Olive Thomas, hailed the “most beautiful woman in the world” by artist Harrison Fisher?

Not while Mary Eaton was still on Broadway, as she was in 1919! Or Bubbles Wilson, later to became Mary Nolan.

"One of the most beautiful" is much more plausible.

[Jerfilm]

i gave a moments thought to loading the entire film into Vegas Pro, cutting the intertitles and replacing them with English. I could probably do that in a day. But getting them translated.....would't you have to retype each one to put into one of the translation programs??

Jerry

[bobfells]

i gave a moments thought to loading the entire film into Vegas Pro, cutting the intertitles and replacing them with English. I could probably do that in a day. But getting them translated.....would't you have to retype each one to put into one of the translation programs??

Jerry

Jerry,

I was hoping I could cut and paste each title into an online translator but it didn't work. I found a plot summary in the AFI catalog that helps to understand the action:

Summary: Flotsam, the daughter of lighthouse keeper Amos Bart, uses her experience maneuvering in the perilous New England reefs to save Mrs. Elmer, who is vacationing with her son Edward and friends on their yacht, from drowning. Edward and Flotsam spend much time together and fall in love, but when he proposes, Amos' helper, the brutish Joey Clark, who wants Flotsam, reveals that years earlier Amos murdered Edward's father. Amos, who believes that he committed the crime while intoxicated, confesses that Flotsam is not his daughter, but that of a dying woman who brought her to his wife to raise. After he tells Flotsam to go with the Elmers, Edward's jealous former sweetheart tells her about the murder that Amos committed. Flotsam returns, followed by the yacht, and she and Edward see Clark taunt Amos by confessing that he murdered Edward's father. After Amos chases Clark up the lighthouse steps, their struggle causes the light to go out. Flotsam carries a flaming torch to save the yacht from dashing onto the rocks. She and Edward then plan to marry.

Bob

[Jerfilm]

I figured the cut and paste would not work. Maybe a character recognition program would work but even if it did, it would be another step. I have an old friend in the Netherlands but I don't think he's interested in silent cinema. So I guess unless someone wants to take the translation on, we're out of luck. Shame - it's a decent print.

J

[entredeuxguerres]

Summary: Flotsam, the daughter of lighthouse keeper Amos Bart, uses her experience maneuvering in the perilous New England reefs to save Mrs. Elmer, who is vacationing with her son Edward and friends on their yacht, from drowning. Edward and Flotsam spend much time together and fall in love, but when he proposes, Amos' helper, the brutish Joey Clark, who wants Flotsam, reveals that years earlier Amos murdered Edward's father. Amos, who believes that he committed the crime while intoxicated, confesses that Flotsam is not his daughter, but that of a dying woman who brought her to his wife to raise. After he tells Flotsam to go with the Elmers, Edward's jealous former sweetheart tells her about the murder that Amos committed. Flotsam returns, followed by the yacht, and she and Edward see Clark taunt Amos by confessing that he murdered Edward's father. After Amos chases Clark up the lighthouse steps, their struggle causes the light to go out. Flotsam carries a flaming torch to save the yacht from dashing onto the rocks. She and Edward then plan to marry.

Bob

Believe it or not, "something like that" was what I deduced merely from the action. Of course I couldn't deduce the exact nature of Amos' "secret," merely that it was something shameful. But it was a mistake to cast someone so ugly & brutish in the part of Joey, because it made his designs on Flotsam seem just too preposterous.

That summary isn't entirely accurate, because the light wasn't extinguished during a "struggle," but rather because bad boy Joey sneaked up alone and extinguished it.

[bobfells]

Introducing a "new" Olive Thomas Film: OUT YONDER. I added opening/closing titles and music. I also shortened the screen time of some of the early intertitles that just hung on too long, even accounting for the language barrier.

https://youtu.be/ubtBL_jaqF0

[agantuk]

The writer's name is I believe Edward J MONTAGNE (sometimes credited as Montaigne) not MONTAGUE.

[syd]

"I've seen "Flapper" and her Bio., but she certainly doesn't look like a beauty queen here. Perhaps it's the hair?"

Go to shorpy.com and see who won beauty contests
in 1919 and you will see what a rare beauty Olive Thomas
was.