What do Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump Have in Common?

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What do Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump Have in Common?

Post by Dave Pitts » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:07 pm

Answer: They each have an imdb page with more than just documentary credits.
Here are some of the stranger imdb pages I scanned recently:
Aesop (life span given as 620 - 560 BCE) -- As you would guess, these are writer credits, 25 of them, spanning 1909 to 2020.
Jesus Christ -- I can't explain this one, other than to say that he has a 'self' credit for a 2021 episode of the Canadian TV series ARTic. Couldn't find much of anything about the series or what Jesus did. That's aboot it.
Abraham Lincoln -- He has 2 writing credits, one for the 1912 film Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, which starred Ralph Ince as Lincoln and also featured Clara Kimball Young in an unspecified role. I could not discover if the film is lost.
Carrie Nation -- She has one film credit, as 'self', in an Edison short made ten years before she died. It's called Kansas Saloon Smashers, it runs one minute, and it gloriously exists today. I found it online this evening and watched it. It was directed by Edwin S. Porter and consists of one medium shot of a saloon being invaded by Carrie and her fellow pious hellions. Because the film is one single medium shot, I could not tell which woman was Carrie or if she was in it at all.
Adolph Hitler -- Der Fuhrer has a clutch of writer credits, not, as I expected, in UFA product but in U.S. wartime documentaries which quoted from Mein Kampf. But the real gold in Adolph's filmography is in his two credits for 'additional crew'. Additional crew!! What was he, an uber-gaffer? A set painter? Not quite. The first one is a 'commissioned by' credit from Triumph of the Will (1935). The other one is from Hollywood in 1980, where he is listed in the end credits of Airplane as 'worst boy'.
Hal LeSueur -- that's right, Joan C.'s brother, who doesn't belong in this company but who intrigues me anyway. Hal has 36 acting credits, and they span the years 1914 to 1957. Who knew? His first credit, from age 10, is a western short called Eugenics at Bar U Ranch (which sounds like a Hitler credit, come to think of it.) Hal was acting under the name Dick Crawford at the time, which is truly weird, because by all accounts big sis didn't get the name Crawford until 1925, when a midwest housewife suggested the name in a contest. Hal's last film was Jeanne Eagels (1957).
Melania Trump (Okay, let me get through this one fast.) She has one acting credit, not, as I expected, for the film of her wedding. She's in Zoolander (2001) as 'European immigrant'.

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Re: What do Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump Have in Common?

Post by silentfilm » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:00 pm

Carrie Nation is not in the Edison film bearing her name. It's a spoof of her.

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Re: What do Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump Have in Common?

Post by Dave Pitts » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:54 pm

That makes more sense, given the slambang look of the film. (imdb does list her on the film's page, as 'credited cast'.)
Carrie was not always aware that she was being spoofed. There's a well-known photo of her surrounded by college boys who pretended to be supporters. Just before the photo was taken, they took out flasks and, standing behind her, put on their best drunk as a skunk faces.

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Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump???

Post by Fred M. Stevens » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:08 pm

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A: Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump
Q; Name Someone Who
Writ Tales, Split Rails, and Spit Nails
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Re: What do Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump Have in Common?

Post by Brooksie » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:22 pm

Dave Pitts wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:07 pm
Hal LeSueur -- that's right, Joan C.'s brother, who doesn't belong in this company but who intrigues me anyway. Hal has 36 acting credits, and they span the years 1914 to 1957. Who knew? His first credit, from age 10, is a western short called Eugenics at Bar U Ranch (which sounds like a Hitler credit, come to think of it.) Hal was acting under the name Dick Crawford at the time, which is truly weird, because by all accounts big sis didn't get the name Crawford until 1925, when a midwest housewife suggested the name in a contest. Hal's last film was Jeanne Eagels (1957).
I'd say someone has a mixed up a completely different Dick Crawford with 'Richard Crawford', the nom-de-plume Hal LeSueur briefly adopted after coming to Hollywood in the late 1920s. Otherwise, we'd have to believe that he was starring in early silent Westerns at the age of 11.

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Re: What do Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump Have in Common?

Post by Spiny Norman » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:25 am

Brooksie wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:22 pm
Dave Pitts wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:07 pm
Hal LeSueur -- that's right, Joan C.'s brother, who doesn't belong in this company but who intrigues me anyway. Hal has 36 acting credits, and they span the years 1914 to 1957. Who knew? His first credit, from age 10, is a western short called Eugenics at Bar U Ranch (which sounds like a Hitler credit, come to think of it.) Hal was acting under the name Dick Crawford at the time, which is truly weird, because by all accounts big sis didn't get the name Crawford until 1925, when a midwest housewife suggested the name in a contest. Hal's last film was Jeanne Eagels (1957).
I'd say someone has a mixed up a completely different Dick Crawford with 'Richard Crawford', the nom-de-plume Hal LeSueur briefly adopted after coming to Hollywood in the late 1920s. Otherwise, we'd have to believe that he was starring in early silent Westerns at the age of 11.
The IMDb couldn't be wrong, could it??? :o :lol:
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Re: Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump???

Post by Dave Pitts » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:40 am

Fred M. Stevens wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:08 pm

A: Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump
Q; Name Someone Who
Writ Tales, Split Rails, and Spit Nails
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Re: What do Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump Have in Common?

Post by Dave Pitts » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:41 am

Spiny Norman wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:25 am

The IMDb couldn't be wrong, could it???
You could be right, in that imdb has Jesus taking a gig on Canadian TV.

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Re: What do Aesop, Lincoln, and Melania Trump Have in Common?

Post by Jim Roots » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:39 am

Dave Pitts wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:41 am
Spiny Norman wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:25 am

The IMDb couldn't be wrong, could it???
You could be right, in that imdb has Jesus taking a gig on Canadian TV.
We're considered a pretty sanctimonious bunch, so this doesn't surprise me.

Jim

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