Poll: What film/s, lost or not, do you most want to see?

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Poll: What film/s, lost or not, do you most want to see?

Post by ChaneyFan » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:39 pm

My lists includes:

Miracle of the Wolves
The Miracle Man
Human Wreckage
The Greatest Thing in Life
Remodeling Her Husband
Hollywood
Quincy Adams Sawyer
The Cossack Whip

I'm sure I will think of some more.

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Post by barafan » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:51 pm

Right off the top of my head? Cleopatra and Convention City

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Post by ChaneyFan » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:33 pm

Sounds like a good one. I used to watch all those films with those guys (Powell, Kibbee, Blondell, etc.

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Post by Derwiddian » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:34 pm

These spring to mind:

Le Petit Chaperon Rouge
The Scarlet Letter
Tih Minh
A Daughter of the Gods
Tess of the Storm Country (1914)
The Story of the Kelly Gang
When Knighthood was in Flower
Rosita
Gunnar Hedes Saga
Sylvester
The Pleasure Garden
Moana
The Way of All Flesh
Lights of New York
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Post by Jason Liller » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:57 pm

Flaming Youth
Stark Love
The Great Gatsby (Silent)
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Post by FrankFay » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:07 pm

The Side Show of Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Side_Show_of_Life

I very much enjoyed the novel it is based on, plus the romantic couple is Anna Q. Nilsson and Ernest Torrence (stills show him looking quite handsome in a WWI General's uniform)
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Post by Jack Theakston » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:26 pm

WANDERER OF THE WASTELAND. Zane Grey, Irvin Willat, Technicolor.
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Post by Gagman 66 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:26 am

Here is a partial list. None of these titles are lost films:

1. HER WILD OAT (1927)

2. CHILDREN OF DIVORCE (1927)

3. HIS HOUR (1924)

4. FORBIDDEN HOURS (1928)

5. THE GARDEN OF ALLAH (1927)

6. ADAMS RIB (1923)

7. BLONDE OR BRUNETTE (1927)

8. BROKEN CHAINS (1922)

9. THREE WOMEN (1924)

10. A WOMAN DISPUTED (1928)

11. AN EXCHANGE OF WIVES (1925)

12. THE JOY GIRL (1926)

13. TWELVE MILES OUT (1927)

14. YOLANDA (1926)

15. SHOW FOLKS (1927)

16. THE FLAMING FOREST (1926)

18. EAST IS WEST (1922)

19. SALLY, IRENE, AND MARY (1926)

20. THE BLOOD SHIP (1927)

21. THE PERFECT FLAPPER (1924)

22. GLORIOUS BETSY (1928)

23. THE JOHNSTOWN FLOOD

24. CLASSIFIED (1926)

25. HER BIG NIGHT (1926)



Another Partial list. The following titles are considered to be lost:


1. FLAMING YOUTH (1923) or OVER THE HILL (1920)

2. THE HUNTRESS (1923)

3. TIN GODS (1926)

4. HONOR FIRST (1922)

5. WE MODERNS (1925)

6. THE RUNAWAY (1926)

7. THE QUEEN OF SHEBA (1923)

8. THE MIRACLE MAN (1920)

9. TOWER OF LIES (1926)

10. ROUGH HOUSE ROSIE (1927)

11. LADIES OF THE MOB (1928)

12. RED HAIR (1928)

13. PARADISE (1926)

14. THE SCARLET WEST (1925)

15. THE DESERT FLOWER (1925)

16. IT MUST BE LOVE (1926)

17. NAUGHTY BUT NICE (1927)

18. THE GREAT GATSBY (1926)

19. AN AMERICAN VENUS (1926)

20. KISS ME AGAIN (1925)

21. THE PATRIOT (1928)

22. SYNCOPATING SUE (1926)

23. MILLE MODESTIE (1926)

24. A BLIND BARGAIN

25. PRODIGAL DAUGHTERS (1923)
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Post by missdupont » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:02 am

Didn't this already come up earlier this year?

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Post by Gagman 66 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:07 am

:o Might have been last year already? I'm not sure. I didn't mention SYNTHETIC SIN or WHY BE GOOD? since neither has been copied to Safety yet as far as I know. But those two Colleen Moore features should be right near the very top of both lists.

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Post by Brooksie » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:33 am

Derwiddian wrote:The Story of the Kelly Gang
Recently, I came as close as you can do to seeing this one. I met a collector who had a booklet that was given out during the original screenings - it was designed to be referred to in lieu of intertitles, and contains lots of pictures from sequences that did not survive. Only around three of these booklets are thought to exist today, so it was an incredible privilege!

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Post by Wm. Charles Morrow » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:29 am

I've always wanted to see Annette Kellerman in Daughter of the Gods (1916). I'm also curious about One Glorious Day (1922), which starred Will Rogers in the role originally meant for Roscoe Arbuckle.

And as for films one might actually be able to see in the real world, I've been interested in the two Colleen Moore features mentioned above ever since they were rediscovered. I would happily pay top dollar to see Synthetic Sin for the title alone . . .

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Post by ChaneyFan » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:56 am

Gagman, I saw Children of Divorce in DC a few years back. I don't remember too much about it, but it was great to see Clara Bow and Gary Cooper together. Hope you can track it down someday.

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Post by Eric Grayson » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:04 am

The Tower of Lies
Hilde Warren und der Tod
Alraune (1928)
The Big City
Treasure Island (1920)

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Post by drednm » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:05 am

THE BARKER
MADAME SANS-GENE
FLAMING YOUTH
COAST OF FOLLY
EXCESS BAGGAGE
CECILIA OF THE PINK ROSES
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Post by N_Phay » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:44 pm

Extant:
The Woman Disputed
Forbidden Paradise
The Fire Brigade

Lost:
Gold-Diggers of Broadway
Three Sinners
Scarlet Seas
You Can't fool Your wife
Mademoiselle Modiste

(....and on, and on and on and on....)

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Post by silentstar5 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:49 pm

well since you asked....

Convention City ( I can just imagine Guy Kibbee)

Hollywood (d. James Cruze)

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Post by Ferdinand Von Galitzien » Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:38 pm

- "Der Knabe In Blau" (1919)
- "Satanas" (1920)
- "Der Bucklige Und Die Tänzerin" (1920)
- "Der Januskopf" (1920)
- "Abend, Nacht, Morgen" (1920)
- "Sehnsucht" (1921)
- "Marizza, Gennant Die Schmuggler Madonna" (1922)
- "Die Austreibung" (1923)
- "Four Devils" (1928)

By Herr Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau

Obviously this Herr Graf watched every single film above when he was a young aristocrat, but after so many years this Herr Graf can't recall pretty well these...

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Post by sepiatone » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:43 am

I recently saw THE PATSY for the first time this summer and it's my favorite Marion Davies silent now usurping SHOW PEOPLE.

The ones I'd like to see:
*THE TEST OF HONOR(1919) st. John Barrymore(Mordaunt Hall gave this film great reviews)

*THE WITNESS FOR THE DEFENSE(1919) st. Elsie Ferguson; dir. George Fitzmaurice (Univ of North Dakota has a site with clips of this Ferguson silent; the film was found in Gosfilmofond)

*TREASURE ISLAND(1920) st. Shirley Mason, Lon Chaney; dir. Maurice Tourneur(Im a sucker for tropical island theme pictures!)

*THE LOTUS EATER(1921) st. John Barrymore ; dir. Marshall Neilan

*THE QUEEN OF SHEBA(1921) st. Betty Blythe; dir. J. Gordon Edwards - the European export version with purportedly 'ahem' the good stuff!

*HEEDLESS MOTHS(1921) st. Audrey Munson, Holmes Herbert , Hedda Hopper ; dir. Robert Z. Leonard - fabled film with Munson showing artistic nudity, I dont think Hedda showed anything cause that 'would be something to gossip about!'

*DISRAELI(1921) starring George Arliss(his first Disraeli movie); dir. by Henry Kolker(remember Kolker? as an actor he was the top executive whom Barbara Stanwyck seduced in BABY FACE 1933)

*ONE EXCITING NIGHT(1922) dir. DW Griffith' foray into haunted house melodrama - not a lost film but I haven't seen it and Kino wont put it on DVD

*LOST AND FOUND ON A SOUTH SEA ISLAND(1923; Clyde DeVinna was the cameraman on this film and it was made in Tahiti, 5 years before DeVinna returned with MGM, WS Van Dyke & Robert Flaherty for WHITE SHADOWS IN THE SOUTH SEAS

*A BLIND BARGAIN(1922) st. Lon Chaney; dir. Wallace Worsley

*HUMAN WRECKAGE(1923)st. Bessie Love; produced by Dorothy Davenport - some great stills survive of this movie, I hope it's found and I love Bessie Love

*WHERE THE PAVEMENT ENDS(1923) st. Ramon Novarro, Alice Terry; dir by Rex Ingram

*SINNERS IN HEAVEN(1924) st. Bebe Daniels, Richard Dix; dir. Alan Crosland

*MADAME SANS-GENE(1925) st. Gloria Swanson ; dir. Leonce Perret(Swanson sort of talked this film up in her auto biography - it's wonderful if there really has been a print found)

*LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT(1927) st. Lon Chaney; dir. Tod Browning
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Post by Mike Gebert » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:54 am

My want-to-see list has been gratified so steadily over the years that I'm really down to either lost films (pointless to list, to me) or obscure European things which would be hard-pressed to make it over the ocean. Though you all have reminded me that, dammit, I had to be out of town for Children of Divorce at the Silent Film Society of Chicago a few years back.

Amok (Fedor Ozep)

Little Friend (Berthold Viertel)

The Ingmarssons (Sjostrom)

La Mystere de Maison, and all those plush Volkov/Mosjoukine costume pictures (Secrets of the Orient, Loves of Casanova, etc.)

Seven Footprints to Satan (Christensen)

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Post by sepiatone » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:21 am

FrankFay wrote:The Side Show of Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Side_Show_of_Life

I very much enjoyed the novel it is based on, plus the romantic couple is Anna Q. Nilsson and Ernest Torrence (stills show him looking quite handsome in a WWI General's uniform)
I thought Anna Q. was beautiful, she doesn't get much love today except for Sunset Blvd. She was marvelously restrained in The Toll Gate (1920), one of the most 'John Fordest' of William S Hart's silent films.
The still I see of Ernest Torrence in TSSoL is in Daniel Blum's "Pictorial History of the Silent Screen" page 260 with Anna Q. & Neil Hamilton and Torrence is dressed as a clown looking similar to Lon in Laugh, Clown, Laugh. Another still of the cast of TSSoL is in a book by Stanley Appelbaum on cinematographers soft back published in the 1980s. James Wong Howe is seen with Herbert Brenon and the rest of the cast in the still set on a large lawn or English style estate and Ernest is dressed in officers uniform.

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Post by pickfair14 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:12 am

for me, "The Warrens of Virginia" - 1915 with Blanche Sweet, as I have the only known copy of the one sheet poster. Would also like to see the 1924 version

others, are "Flaming Youth" with Colleen Moore, and the 1924 "Wolfman" with John Gilbert

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Post by dr.giraud » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:35 am

Since I like those 3-people-stuck-in-a-room dramas, I wish a good print of Tod Browning's WHITE TIGER would turn up.

Related: I would buy a Priscilla Dean box set.
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Post by silentfilm » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:05 am

dr.giraud wrote:Since I like those 3-people-stuck-in-a-room dramas, I wish a good print of Tod Browning's WHITE TIGER would turn up.

Related: I would buy a Priscilla Dean box set.
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So you don't like Grapevine's DVD-R version? I'm pretty sure that White Tiger only survives in 16mm.
http://www.grapevinevideo.com/white_tiger.htm

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Post by Arndt » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:13 am

dr.giraud wrote:Since I like those 3-people-stuck-in-a-room dramas, I wish a good print of Tod Browning's WHITE TIGER would turn up.

Related: I would buy a Priscilla Dean box set.
Bach Films of France have released a Tod Browning box set. The included version of WHITE TIGER is a little better than the Grapevine version. Untypically for Bach films it retains the original English intertitles with the added French subtitles.

http://www.bachfilms.com/dvd.php5?dvd=1398
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Post by drednm » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:08 pm

I think I have a copy of The White Tiger ... it sure sounds and looks familiar....
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Re: Poll: What film/s, lost or not, do you most want to see?

Post by Big Silent Fan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:04 pm

ChaneyFan wrote:My lists includes:

Miracle of the Wolves
The Miracle Man
Human Wreckage
The Greatest Thing in Life
Remodeling Her Husband
Hollywood
Quincy Adams Sawyer
The Cossack Whip

I'm sure I will think of some more.
I really wished that I could see "The Miracle Man" after watching Robert Blake's Chaney bio. I know that it will never happen since it's lost.
I even bought a copy of the original novel (it's also available to read on-line).

Then I found a copy of the 1932 remake. This early sound film has more than satisfied my wish with a story that's even better than the novel (and probably better than the silent). It's a great little 85 minute story featuring Sylvia Sidney.

The guy doing Chaney's part does it just like it's seen in the Silent clip.

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Post by Gagman 66 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:08 pm

:) I asked Gen McGillicuddy, organizer of the TCM Film Festival this weeks guest on SSO, if there was a chance they might be running HER WILD OAT, LILAC TIME or any Colleen Moore film at the event next year. Haven't heard back from her yet. Likewise, inquired concerning the restored THE BIG PARADE, CHILDREN OF DIVORCE and a few others. Also mentioned the recently restored FIG LEAVES as well. I figure there is a pretty good chance that UPSTREAM will almost certainly be screened.
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Post by Darren Nemeth » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:16 am

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Re: Poll: What film/s, lost or not, do you most want to see?

Post by Michael F. Blake » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:14 pm

<< I really wished that I could see "The Miracle Man" after watching Robert Blake's Chaney bio.>>

Um, it's Michael Blake. Not Robert! Bad enough he lived in my neighborhood when the wife was shot near our house.

And it's Kevin Brownlow's documentary, not mine. He's the one who made it. Just want to make sure proper credit is given.

John Wray played Chaney's role in the 1932 remake of THE MIRACLE MAN.

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