Fox starting specialty DVD label

[Danny Burk]

They've had very little prior to the 20th Century - Fox merger. At least their output is more regular than that of Universal, but they could learn a lot from Warner Archive.

Keep in mind that Twilight Time is licensing these titles from 20th Century Fox and Columbia (Sony), and doing pressed DVDs and blu-rays with extras like commentaries and separate scores, as opposed to releasing material they already own on barebones (or with just a trailer) DVD-R. It's not a big-scale operation and they have to choose their films wisely.

I meant the output via Fox's MOD program. That thread on HTF has a long line of complaints about very old and/or poor quality masters being used, even non-anamorphic for widescreen films. Twilight Time's quality record has been great for the most part, although most of what they've released has been from the '50s or later.

[LouieD]

Why in the world should this be considered a bad thing?

Uh, because I'm not a fan of movies from the 50's or 60's.

Your usual tolerant and easy going self again, I see?

That's right! I'm not here to please you.

[s.w.a.c.]

Twilight Time's quality record has been great for the most part, although most of what they've released has been from the '50s or later.

Isn't part of Twilight Time's mandate to release unavailable films that also have notable scores, seeing as it's an offshoot of the Screen Archives Entertainment record label? It seems they try to include isolated scores as an extra, wherever possible, and it's certainly harder to do that with pre-'50s titles. I know it's branched off from that as they've released more discs, but if you go to their website, they still list the composer just below the director in their catalogue listings.

(I'm not saying this like it's a bad thing, quite commendable, actually.)

[Danny Burk]

Isn't part of Twilight Time's mandate to release unavailable films that also have notable scores, seeing as it's an offshoot of the Screen Archives Entertainment record label? It seems they try to include isolated scores as an extra, wherever possible, and it's certainly harder to do that with pre-'50s titles. I know it's branched off from that as they've released more discs, but if you go to their website, they still list the composer just below the director in their catalogue listings.

(I'm not saying this like it's a bad thing, quite commendable, actually.)

Yes, that was their original plan. As you say, they've strayed from it somewhat, but they do seem to follow it when they can.

[entredeuxguerres]

What a load of rubbish! They haven't got my favourite "Sunny Side Up" (1929) with Janet Gaynor and Charles Farrell, in fact they have nothing with Gaynor and Farrell !

A fave of mine, too, but who cares that it's not offered as an "official" release, when it's widely available on the free-market (prejudicially called by some the gray-market) at half the price of any authorized release. Now if Fox came up with the missing color elements, that would be cause for jubilation.

[entredeuxguerres]

Why in the world should this be considered a bad thing?

Uh, because I'm not a fan of movies from the 50's or 60's.

Your usual tolerant and easy going self again, I see?

Now Spiny, you should be appreciative of his broadmindedness in condescending to participate on a site he's trashed & ridiculed on his pal's counter-site.

[Mike Gebert]

You do realize you're arguing with 2010, don't you?

[LouieD]

Yes, arguing on something from 2010, but that's what pompous asses like Spiny and entredeuxguerres do. They berate people's opinions (just like they whined that Richard M Roberts did) and hide behind fake names. Also, one of them, sends anonymous and nasty emails but doesn't seem to realize there is a way to find out who sends those emails. What dopes.

[Mike Gebert]

Okay, I'm not cutting anything because I've done enough of that lately, but I am pointing out how silly all of this is.

They're movies. People have different opinions about which ones they like. Deal with it.

What happens on other sites is not our business, even if what happens on this site seems to be their primary business.

[entredeuxguerres]

You do realize you're arguing with 2010, don't you?

If so, I've gotten hold of a mis-dated calendar; nor is observing the equivalent of arguing.

[entredeuxguerres]

They berate people's opinions...

What? Where? When? Examples, please.

In 2010, moi-meme was yet unborn.

[Mike Gebert]

Hey, thanks for missing the point.

See if this is clearer:

Pointless bickering and he-said-she-said will meet the moderator's ax. Let's talk movies, not each other.

[David Alp]

What a load of rubbish! They haven't got my favourite "Sunny Side Up" (1929) with Janet Gaynor and Charles Farrell, in fact they have nothing with Gaynor and Farrell !

A fave of mine, too, but who cares that it's not offered as an "official" release, when it's widely available on the free-market (prejudicially called by some the gray-market) at half the price of any authorized release. Now if Fox came up with the missing color elements, that would be cause for jubilation.

Well I have already got a bootleg version of the film, so that is quite good I guess. In fact I have got 2 different versions of it, one that is of better quality than the other.

It was broadcast on UK television in circa 1998, and I taped it onto VHS and had an outstanding copy of it, but I must have left the cassette in a magnetic area or something because a few years later when I tried to watch the film again on this tape there was nothing but static. The film was gone. Channel four never re-broadcast the movie again. So my best copy ever disappeared.

Wow yes; wouldn't it be fab if they could locate that "Turn On The Heat" number which was photographed in Multicolor I believe?

[earlytalkiebuffRob]

What a load of rubbish! They haven't got my favourite "Sunny Side Up" (1929) with Janet Gaynor and Charles Farrell, in fact they have nothing with Gaynor and Farrell !

A fave of mine, too, but who cares that it's not offered as an "official" release, when it's widely available on the free-market (prejudicially called by some the gray-market) at half the price of any authorized release. Now if Fox came up with the missing color elements, that would be cause for jubilation.

Well I have already got a bootleg version of the film, so that is quite good I guess. In fact I have got 2 different versions of it, one that is of better quality than the other.

It was broadcast on UK television in circa 1998, and I taped it onto VHS and had an outstanding copy of it, but I must have left the cassette in a magnetic area or something because a few years later when I tried to watch the film again on this tape there was nothing but static. The film was gone. Channel four never re-broadcast the movie again. So my best copy ever disappeared.

Wow yes; wouldn't it be fab if they could locate that "Turn On The Heat" number which was photographed in Multicolor I believe?

SUNNYSIDE UP was indeed shown on C4, but I can't recall how long it lasted with ads, but am sure it was 120m+. I have come across more than one running time (80m, 96m, 130m) for this film, but don't know how accurate they are, although BBC-2 ran a shorter print at least twice in the 1970s. The C4 presentation was the best (ads aside), but both variants were better-looking than the uploads I've found on YT but which I've declined to watch...

[Marr&Colton]

Didn't TWILIGHT TIME distributor go out of business in 2020?

[Mike Gebert]

One of the founders died and yes, it seemed to wrap up as a business shortly after.

By the way, I had long since forgotten this thread but I don't think it actually had any relation to Fox, just licensed titles from them and others.

[nolisome]

Has this site ever organized a funding initiative for any particularly demanded films? We are not all impoverished, I would think.

[bgp]

Didn't TWILIGHT TIME distributor go out of business in 2020?

Screen Archives acquired TT, and are still manufacturing their catalog releases. Not sure if they will acquire new titles, but at least the back catalog will still be available (as long as the rights haven't expired).