FS: Harold Lloyd's HOT WATER (1924)

M Verdoux · Post by **M Verdoux** » Wed May 25, 2011 8:12 pm

HOT WATER (1924) starring Harold Lloyd, Jobyna Ralston & Josephine Crowell. Directed by Fred Newmeyer & Sam Taylor. This is the uncut 'Pathepicture' release - sharp print on Agfa stock - period stock music track - near mint condition - $185 SOLD

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Gagman 66 · Post by **Gagman 66** » Sat May 28, 2011 3:26 pm

Huh? Where did this come from? The Trust can't be happy! I still prefer the Photoplay Productions version, over the one of the New-Line Box.

M Verdoux · Post by **M Verdoux** » Mon May 30, 2011 5:14 pm

Clearly you've never collected 16mm.

Gagman 66 · Post by **Gagman 66** » Mon May 30, 2011 5:30 pm

You don't get it. TIME-LIFE only released two scenes from HOT WATER on 16 Millimeter back in the 70's. Never the complete film. So again, I ask where did this come from? And what is the print quality like?

M Verdoux · Post by **M Verdoux** » Mon May 30, 2011 5:45 pm

If you collected 16mm - you'd know that there have been very good-to- excellent 16mm prints around on the silent Lloyd features for awhile (if you knew where to look). Were they released by The Lloyd Trust? Hell no. But I can tell you that The Lloyd Trust has gotten their share of exhibition fees from licensed screenings of these 16mm prints.

As to the quality of THIS print -- I think I covered that in the description. Thinking of getting into 16mm ?

Gagman 66 · Post by **Gagman 66** » Mon May 30, 2011 5:50 pm

Not with the cost of Projector Lamps and how quickly that they burn out.

Jim Reid · Post by **Jim Reid** » Mon May 30, 2011 5:59 pm

That's interesting. I've had the same lamp in my Elmo for 2 or 3 years, and I got about a half dozen of them on Ebay for $50. Now the prints? That's where the money is.

Michael O'Regan · Post by **Michael O'Regan** » Tue May 31, 2011 5:57 am

Gagman 66 wrote:Not with the cost of Projector Lamps and how quickly that they burn out.

Eh??

They're cheap and they last.

sethb · Post by **sethb** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:27 am

The bulbs are just the tip of iceberg, gang! In addition to the cost of the film, don't forget the cans, reels, rewinds, splicers, leader, Vitafilm, etc.

As a former Blackhawk Films/Thunderbird/Niles Films customer, I agree that almost nothing compares to a projected 16mm image (except, of course, a 35mm image). But given the expense and hassles of handing and storing film, I'm just as happy to watch DVD's on a big LED TV screen.

I'd love to go for a DIGITAL projector, but the replacement bulbs for those are really out of sight!! SETH

Hillary H. · Post by **Hillary H.** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:02 am

Film and digital each have their strengths and weaknesses. I don't blame anyone for going with digital, but some of us are so stuck in our ways with film, it's not so easy to give it up.

The big problem for us really is money for films!

If I had the money, I'd be all over Bruce's print!

Jim Reid · Post by **Jim Reid** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:35 am

sethb wrote: But given the expense and hassles of handing and storing film, I'm just as happy to watch DVD's on a big LED TV screen.

If you feel that way, you made the right decision. To some of us, those are not hassles. We love working with projectors and film.